Polar Bears seem to be at full capacity in two areas

It's not harmless and it's not sweet. I still think it's bullshit and I don't care if that seems harsh. I don't think it's harsh at all. I think it's possible to be too touchy.

My comment is about what I regard as a rubbish, wrong-headed poem.

My comment is NOT directed at any person or persons. It is directed at emotional twaddle about polar bears.

Which I'm heartily sick of.

I'll give the writer some points for poetical structure and rhythm but the fictional content and the emotional overload make me sick.

Dare I own up to liking Nellie The Elephant?

Nellie the Elephant is great for getting CPR rhythm right!

So it is, Bags - and so much nicer than the usual Staying Alive

Polar bear thoughts on human alarmism

I still can't see where you are coming from Bags. This poem is NOTHING about global warming, it is about the sinking of the Titanic - and as far as I know there is no connection. Your comment about "fictional content and emotional overload" making you sick is your opinion.Why is it wmore wrong-headed than any other example of anthropomorphising animals - Winnie the Pooh, Peter Rabbit, The Tiger who came to Tea, or indeed Nellie the Elephant? I don't rubbish your links. Live and let live.

I see your point, gm, and accept my response was odd in the circumstances .

But I still dislike the poem's soppy sentimentalism.

I'm also not sure polar bears live as far south as the Titanic sailed but I'll need to check that out to be sure.

If they don't live that far south that means the poem is actually fiction .....[goes away sobbing]

accepted. You don't have to like the poem - it's hardly in the Poet Laureate class!!

Actually, they might... sort of accidentally. See here for Titanic route and here for polar bear regions .

tegan, what don't you understand about my acceptance of my hasty mistake this morning?No need for sobbing

And there's no need for sobbing about polar bears either.

Well, that's a slap on the wrist for me then, isn't it. Pardon me for breathing.

Bags, or should it be Geraldine? Why do attempts to PM you fail because the system says your nickname doesn't exist on the system.

Bags/Geraldine ? You are not serious, FlicketyB ?

No what I meant was Bags OR Geraldine as the cause of this system failure could be because Bags has been receiving unpleasant PM given the vitriol that has been expressed towards her on some threads so has asked to have her PM service suspended or it could be that it is a Gransnet system failure.

Nothing more exciting

Phew! That is clear now. i thought you might mean something entirely different.

I just took that poem to be a funny take on the Titanic story. I would not have taken it as anything else.

It is very much written in the style of some of the more sentimental Victorian ballads. Like this one which I just love as an example of the genre.
allpoetry.com/poem/8544309-Billys_Rose-by-George_Robert_Sims

Prepare to weep!

For some reason the poem made me think of the Walter Potter exhibition I saw at Jamaica Inn years ago, and it saddened me to read just now that it had been sold and dispersed, even though Damien Hurst had offered to pay a lot of money to keep the collection intact. There's something fascinating about the Victorian/Edwardian mindset isn't there? [or is it just me?].

FlicketyB Or it means that Bags has left GN?

I do hope not.

!!!!!

I really hope not. I read and respected her contributions and read most of the articles she posted, commenting on some.

If she has gone I will really miss her. I hope she returns under another alias.

Polar bears are top predators. Eco systems depend on there being predators to regulate populations of other animals etc.
The existence or not of top predators signifies whether an eco system is healthy and sustainable or not. That is why scientists are concerned about polar bears. Scientists working in the Arctic are not soppy sentimentalists about bears any more than they are about lemmings.

PS please note, for the record, that I have never PM'd anyone with the letters bag in their name.

PPS If we had wolves or lynx in Scotland we wouldn't have to keep culling deer.

That poem is truly sickening. And anyone who can't see that is totally devoid of any sensitivity whatsoever.

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