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Can we go on like this?

(40 Posts)
jinglbellsfrocks Fri 25-Jul-14 10:55:23

See, my predictive corrects my spelling mistakes for me. I just have to watch it doesn't change the word completely.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 25-Jul-14 10:53:33

My kindle fire corrects rescueing to rescuing. So I guess that's right. You just missed the e out of preventing. And put an extra r in really.

It's the heat. I've got a cracking headache this morning.

Elegran Fri 25-Jul-14 10:49:10

I have turned off predictive text, It was driving me up the wall.

Elegran Fri 25-Jul-14 10:48:29

And preventing.

Elegran Fri 25-Jul-14 10:48:10

Is that how you spell rescueing? It looks wrong to me (so does rerally)

Elegran Fri 25-Jul-14 10:47:23

Human beings are very creative when there is a problem to be overcome. A pity that they are not so creative at prventing the problem happening in the first place.

You could be right, thatbags. when things get so bad that we are rerally up against it, research and development will desert the frivolous projects and postgrad students will be pursuing PhDs in rescueing the world from imminent chaos instead of the strange non-research they seem to post on here.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 25-Jul-14 10:45:29

I know of only one charity shop that accepts perfectly good but no longer wanted electrical goods. And that is about forty miles away from us. I think that's a shame.

thatbags Fri 25-Jul-14 10:35:48

Yes, I'm serious. Think about it and about necessity being the mother of invention.

Whether this is a good way to behave is a separate issue from my view that it is how humans behave.

Eloethan Fri 25-Jul-14 10:11:37

thatbags You're not really serious are you?

sunseeker Fri 25-Jul-14 10:08:23

One of the problems is the "built in obsolecence", when something breaks it is either impossible to get repaired or cheaper to buy new. I recycle as much as I can and throw very little food away (usually peelings, egg shells etc - I don't have a compost heap). My general waste wheelie bin usual has a half sack of rubbish every fortnight, yet I regularly see neighbours with overflowing wheelie bins and often wonder how much could be recycled if they could be bothered to sort it.

Tegan Fri 25-Jul-14 10:05:45

Weren't they trying to implement a scheme whereby all phones, laptops etc would use the same recharger? I can understand up to a point the number of old mobiles phones etc I have floating round my house [my sons, not mine, I hasten to add...I'm on my third phone and the one I've got is at least 10 years old;I still prefer the second one I had but my son replaced it; the first one is about a foot long] but I've got loads of rechargers which I daren't throw away 'just in case'. Next to me in the pooter room is a huge box containing scart leads etc all of which have come with tv's that are replacing tv's that already have scart leads. I think the covering is stripped off wiring to get to the copper inside [?] if it goes to the recycling depot.

thatbags Fri 25-Jul-14 09:49:06

I think we will "go on like this" until it simply isn't possible any more. Then we will become inventive, as we usually do, and adapt to deal with whatever is facing us next. The adaptation may well include recycling much of the stuff we've thrown out. So it's in landfill? So what? Much of it was dug out of the ground as raw materials anyway. We can do that again.

FlicketyB Fri 25-Jul-14 09:16:02

When I visit my local tip I am constantly amazed how much good re-usable stuff is dumped, especially furniture.

We can recycle mobile phones and some other electronic kit through our doorstep recycling bin and if I go to the tip they have special recycling facilities for all electrical and electronic equipment but many people just put such stuff in their bins.

It is the same with food. A woman quoted in a newspaper said she threw away £20 of food away each week because her life was so busy she didn't have time to draw up a shopping list! Apart from anything else, it is the sheer waste of money!

grannyactivist Fri 25-Jul-14 00:15:36

No, we can't go on like this Eloethan, but I'm too tired to discuss it tonight. [exhausted yawn]
I'll come back to this thread tomorrow, but in the meantime here's a link:
www.wrap.org.uk/content/wrap-and-circular-economy

Eloethan Thu 24-Jul-14 23:57:58

I've just been watching Newsnight. The final item was about the massive amount of electrical equipment that goes into landfill each year: 500,000 tons of electronic equipment and 20,000 tons of precious metals.

Dame Ellen Mcarthur reflected on the way she lived when she did her round-the-world race - when resources were treated as precious because they were finite. She talked about the "make, break, dispose of" economy that exists now and said we must find ways of retrieving/recycling materials. Apart from being very wasteful, these sorts of materials are not biodegradable. Surely there must be a limit to how much of this stuff can be dumped?

She had some interesting ideas about a "circular economy" which is a model that attempts to break our present wasteful economic cycle. I thought some Gransnetters might be interested.