Er... what happened?
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Is this a forum for normal everyday women of the 21st century, or a cosy little space for older ladies straight from the local church hall and with their own sweet reminisces of finishing school or, at the very least memories of the school hockey field and sewing lessons with the nuns?
It would appear that under the new regime, in the soon to be absence of the slightly more broadminded Geraldine, we are not allowed to use even the most inoffensive of Anglo Saxon words. Like FUCK.
Are those amongst us who came here from anything goes Mumsnet supposed to have turned into virtuous beings overnight? How? Why?
Is n' t it ageist to allow younger women to swear, but not older ones?
Er... what happened?
Looks like another griping session, bags. Time to lighten up, peeps!
there are lots of fun, enjoyable things to do than worrying away about things that don't exist. Peace! 
I object to the c* word as being pejorative to women . As I do to all gender specific swearing having once seen a list of derogative description s of women counterbalanced by a much shorter one for men. We are as women short changing ourselves by using them .Sorry if I am being worthy here but I was always told that too many swear words meant a limited unoriginal mind.
They say 'twunt' quite a bit of MN!
when what if we don't want peace right at this moment? We are having a lively debate.
I would be annoyed if swearing were to be banned and I get irritated when people object to acronyms as IMO, they are part and parcel of the world of forums. I spend more time on Mumsnet these days, because tbh I find Gransnet has got a bit boring and I like a change from the same old same old. I think the real problem is that there are not always enough posters on Gransnet, so many of us know and are annoyed (or not) by the (sometimes) predictable views of others and by the same old stories. I don't want to be the boring woman who bangs on about France / schools / the ConDem government, so I don't post very often now.
I find this often is the pattern with forums, especially over the holidays. I am not directing this at anyone in particular, so please don't take offence!
When was this added?
ZOMBIE THREAD ALERT: This is/was a dead thread. Are you sure you want to reanimate it?
There seems to be a lot of things changing and not always for the better.
I like the variety on here and think that swearing is now part and parcel of life whether we like it or not.
I tend not to get involved in political stuff (except for Syria!!!) or other more intense subjects, but I am happy to read them and find out what others think. I am a bit of a chicken in discussions, (my family will testify to that as they are all ardent discussers), hence I rarely add my thoughts.
I love Gransnet and log on most days. I would not like to see it sanitised.
Oh and I enjoy JO8's direct approach, she often writes what I think, as do others.
If someone doesn't like the way a thread it going, the best thing is not to read it.
We are after all, supposedly all grown up now and have seen a lot of the life and have had varied experiences between us all.
Long live variety I say.
Golly, that is long for me. 
It's not the ex teachers, social workers, lecturers or the Guardian readers who put me off - it's the people who are so decided and think they are the only people who are entitled to an opinion who put me off. They are the ones who make me think I'm not worthy.
Bluebell, this was a very happy forum until a few months ago and I can't remember people being banned until fairly recently, unless they were trolls.
Petallus are peace and healthy debate mutually exclusive? Not for me they aren't. I prefer to stay friendly. We've all got more in common than we are different. 
Why does it actually matter about who reports what? As I said above, if we don't like the way the forum is run, we can always leave. I've been reported and deleted and sometimes I thought it was fair and sometimes not but I don't whinge about it.
That's true when but sometimes a bit of temporary conflict adds life to a discussion.
The good thing about GN is that when we do fall out we usually manage to get over it.
You are obviously a very confident person bluebell, not everyone is and not everyone wants to be made to feel 'unworthy' because they are not so forceful.
I am not offended if people swear - I don't myself but if I tried to stop other people that is censorship which I think is worse than swearing. GN is made up of people from different walks of life and different backgrounds and is the better for it. How boring if we all thought the same and used the same language.
Going back to the OP, Looks like older women are allowed to swear then, Jingle 
Leaving by choice is one thing, being made, because your views do not 'gel' with others, to do so is completely different.
Has someone had a post deleted? What on earth is Jingle on about in her OP?
bluebell you seem to be a very angry woman. Why bother with GN? Because I find there are some illuminating, compassionate people posting on a variety of subjects who speak from the depths of their own experience. I am impressed by the support, freely given to those who need it and I feel I can learn much from them. I also learn a lot from experts in gardening and cooking, neither of which is my forte.
I also find things which make me laugh, j08 in particular, is priceless and so often cuts to the quick of the pomposity with a brilliant comment.
Personally I don't take to being preached to or told what I should think, I doubt many people our age do. Nor do I believe shouting loudly about the ills of the world makes me a better person. We have all achieved much in our life and personally, I find tolerance of others is quite important. That's why this new culture of reporting and banning is so unpleasant.
Cees can someone actually be "made" to leave?
what's going on? 
sel, What new culture of reporting and banning? We have always been advised by HQ to report certain kinds of posts. I daresay the same applies on MN. As for banning, that appears to me to be still, as it always was, extremely rare.
I ask again, what sparked this thread, jings?
henetha, I don't know either.
But slearly some people are using this thread to have a go at each other. Sigh.
Firstly - let us say once and for all that there is absolutely no "profile" of what gransnetters should (or indeed shouldn't) be. Anyone and everyone is welcome (as long as they stick within our few guidelines) and diversity of views, background and experience surely makes it a better place to be?
We're always open to gransnetters' views on how the forums should operate but we are agnostic about swearing and we don't intend to delete posts for swearing (unless, of course, it's combined with a personal attack etc). When Gransnet started, gransnetters decided they didn't want it as sweary as mumsnet; the not-swearing thing has always been self-imposed. We aim to err on the side of free speech and don't feel we are in a position to censor something which has become part of everyday speech for many people. (Equally, if gransnetters prefer not to have swearing, that's fine.)
And as a last word on the banning front...do bear in mind that this is never a decision taken lightly and that we may be privy to information that is not necessarily apparent from the forums. We ban people very rarely, never because their views don't 'fit' and only for good reason - and continued speculation about the whys and wherefores only stirs things up further. It's good to move on from this 
Sorry, should have made that remark clearer....either by being banned, or the constant sniping by other members makes you decide that enough is enough.
Sel in your last post you have expressed the reasons we are all here. There's room for serious and frivolous discussions and no need for checking out whether posters are businesswomen, state pensioners, public sector workers, tinkers, tailors or whatever.
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