Moderation and deleting posts

Oh shite! (about dobbing us in handing us over! )

Anyone know what counts as the public arena. How many people have to know, for it to be public knowledge. Maybe 5? Or does it mean a town?

Either way, I wouldnt like to have to prove something through a solicitor.

Going by the above gransnet post, phoenix could, if she chose, keep the post up by the sounds of it?

Didnt you know that jingl?

The internet is very public. Open to anyone across the world who has a computer.

GT is not overreacting at all.

Not true soon - there would be a court order about the children's anonymity and the fact that inevitably some prople in the area knew who they were would not make it ok for it to be put on the Internet or even the local paper. The issue is wider than libel isn't it HQ?

I don't think I've given it any thought soon.

#smallbrain

Oh do come back Cari. GT wants to discuss it some more.

Cari

Reporting posts is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

However, posts are deleted as a precautionary measure in the first instance and may later be proven to NOT have any libellous wording and/or the words posted are clearly in the public domain! GNHQ should verify that to be the case , after all the post was deleted by GNHQ as a protection for us but it stigmatises the poster , unfairly.

When a post is deleted by GNHQ this does show a possible lack of integrity by the poster to those who have not had the opportunity to see the content of the deleted post. Unlike the person who who reported the post they may well take a different view or have a little more knowledge of the content posted. A deleted post can be for the safequard of the poster, I fully understand that and it is to be appreciated but to other GN's they will see only a deleted post and automatically wonder was it abuse of a personal nature, libellous content etc. This has a horrible impact on the poster when his/her post has been challenged by another who has made a false accusation, made it a personal issue or is simply being true about his/her thought on the matter.

When however GNHQ does establish that, for arguments sake, NO LIBELLOUS content was posted it would be only fair and proper to inform other posters of your findings, especially as leaving other posts that state this has happened continue to, or even become more inflated. It gives rise to further humiliation of the poster whose post has been deleted and they have done nothing wrong.

It takes due care and process between the deleted poster and GNHQ to establish whether or not a post is tantamount to libellous. Your contribution on this thread is welcomed but it does not satisfy the need to hold the poster who reported a post to account or at least give an explanation of how they have no cause to continue making their allegations , that is just not playing fair.

When posts are reported why should there be anonymity? Posters could be quite genuine, posters could have a dislike of a poster and want to cause trouble, a poster may hold a firm, correct assumption of the post they reported. They have the right to post in return to any post they disagree with but why they do have the right to have their posts still on the site if and when it is proven to be incorrect in it's allegations by GNHQ?

Deleted posts should expand to state why it has been deleted e.g personal abuse, against forum guidelines, requires further clarification by GNHQ etc, but in return if found none of the mentioned are considered to be true GNHQ should make that equally clear to stop any continued misjudgements of character that arises.

This is serious point I am making and forgive me for asking but is this the right thread for grinning emoticons?

So, gien the fact that it is the poster that could be prosecuted should they not have the right to remove their post themselves?

For goodness sake! (please appreciate the polite version) This is a forum. On the internet. It really isn't that important.

Now please excuse this next contribution. Or don't.......

Someone downloaded an article on another forum I go onto and the writer demanded that it be withdrawn immediately or she would sue [which we did along with grovelling unashamedly to her]. It was a bit of a wake up call I'm afraid .

Jingle

Actually it is not a trivial point being made, lord knows you have in the past shown to be annoyed when your posts are deleted. You know what is like and it is a very uncomfortable position you are placed in by another anonymous person, especially when they are making very strong accusations of you making libellous comment, there is an irony in the word libellous when that happens.

There is a fair and valid reason behind reporting a post, to be polite I will say both on the part of the GN'er who reported it and GNHQ to 'protect' us from libel. That's polite enough I hope.

However when due process has been carried out between the deleted poster and GNHQ and the deleted post is verified as not being a case of being libellous it would stop the 'further rot', continuation of comment and continued allegation by GN'ers who are doing so without full receipt of that knowledge!

This problem of deleted posts rears it's ugly head time and again but what I am saying is there are reasonable solutions that I believe most would agree on that could dissipate the need for them. Both parties deserve GNHQ to provide full and comprehensive reasons of why the post was deleted, especially if it is found to be the case there never was a problem in the first place. Precaution is a good thing, not clearing a posters good name is a bad thing.

I am affirmed of my position as I am the deleted poster in question on both this and another thread.

You haven't had a post on this thread deleted, POGS...

AIB Dense, where "on this thread" one of your posts been deleted POGS?
I thought the deleted poster in question was phoenix but perhaps I am missing something, somewhere?

Oh, you're probably right. I just can't my head it all.

I prefer to let GNHQ know just what I think of them having deleted a post of mine. Usually in a good (ish) way.

Ana - in the past!

Pogs is talking in a general way. Based on happenings over the life of the forum. #getwiththepicture

I am the deleted poster on both this and another thread

Is what I read, so can't see how the first part of this applies to the past.

OMG! Have I got to read all of that long post?!

No it is the last line.

I am the deleted poster in question.... etc

Oh, I didn't get that far. now.

Hardly surprising. . . I thought the Lndon Marathon was on Sunday

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