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trisher Sat 16-May-15 10:25:17

I recently had a post deleted because it contravened the guidelines, it wasn't obscene, racist or a personal attack. It was a very bad taste joke the subject of which doesn't really matter. There is in British politics a long history of using satire and bad taste to highlight problems and I wonder why Gransnet feel this is unsuitable for the forums? I certainly would make the joke I made on here to my friends. It was posted on a thread with a warning about bad language so not for the fainthearted. Presumably Jonthan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" where he proposes that the Irish should eat their children as a solution to famine would be regarded as unacceptable and deleted. Come on Gransnet, either set up a warning system and make some posts more appropriate to thinking adults, or just accept the satire part of political debate, but please stop acting like Nanny, we are grown ups!

soontobe Sun 17-May-15 10:10:54

Wrong thread. I meant to post that on the reporting thread. Off I go.

soontobe Sun 17-May-15 10:09:02

The two posts I had deleted, were because I repeated something a poster had already said about themselves. I was flabbergasted.

Nelliemoser Sun 17-May-15 10:07:52

I did not see it but by Trishers suggestion above that it was about two celebrities one now"incarcerated" I would hazard a guess that it was very innapropriate with regard to the subject matter.

It was as unacceptable as were the remarks on another thread about "Grannies smelling of wee." which most posters condemned.

thatbags Sun 17-May-15 10:05:54

I think that is often the problem, lily – someone thinking a remark is 'aimed' at them when it isn't. Not much one can do except shrug, I suppose.

Lilygran Sun 17-May-15 09:57:54

I had a thread I'd started deleted. The OP was absolutely harmless (no bad language, not about religion, not about politics) but an individual thought it was somehow a personal comment aimed at them. Weird or what?

soontobe Sun 17-May-15 09:48:09

Most of them not to me or about me, I should add.

soontobe Sun 17-May-15 09:46:17

When I first joined last November, I probably reported about 10 over a period of a couple of months.
A few got deleted, a few didnt. That is it I think.

kittylester Sun 17-May-15 09:17:07

How many posts have you reported soon?. Apart from spam, which I love reporting, I can't remember reporting any post in the 4 (?) years I've have been here! Am I odd? Do people often report?

soontobe Sun 17-May-15 08:49:39

I think sharp retorts and sarcasm are allowed too so long as they are sharp and sarcastic about posts or subjects of posts rather than about posters. subtle but important difference.

That is what I realised a number of days ago.
I cant see the difference myself, so no longer report posts. To me, they all look the same.
Perhaps I should try a few reports again, and see.

I am at last starting to realise that the thing is with Gransnet, as I suppose it must be with any online forum, that you are speaking to a wide range of people and you are bound to come across, amongst the many that you are in tune with, and even feel affection for, some who, in real life you simply would not want to know or to have anything to do with. It illustrates the silliness of being here. That's what I feel at the moment

Gosh yes. If you were in a room situation, you may wish to speak to 6 or 2 about something, but on a forum you are forced to speak to absolutely everyone.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 17-May-15 08:33:13

this is the thread in question If anyone is interested.

I am at last starting to realise that the thing is with Gransnet, as I suppose it must be with any online forum, that you are speaking to a wide range of people and you are bound to come across, amongst the many that you are in tune with, and even feel affection for, some who, in real life you simply would not want to know or to have anything to do with. It illustrates the silliness of being here. That's what I feel at the moment.

My grandchildren are coming today. I might place my mini I-pad in the pond, whilst thanking the Lord for the blocker on my PC.

thatbags Sun 17-May-15 07:52:56

There's a quote somewhere about skidding through life and thinking oh what a wonderful ride at the end, rather than plodding sedately and virtuously. A site that doesn't allow bad taste, bad jokes, bad language is a plodder. Gransnet guidelines include the allowance of bad jokes, bad language and bad taste, so what was deleted probably worried HQ's sensibilities about libel or some other legal wotsit.

I think sharp retorts and sarcasm are allowed too so long as they are sharp and sarcastic about posts or subjects of posts rather than about posters. subtle but important difference.

kittylester Sun 17-May-15 07:13:42

Language absent winegrin

I don't think I've ever had a thread deleted and would be blush if I did!

absent Sun 17-May-15 07:05:38

Oh bugger. I think I should just log off and hit the whole bottle!

absent Sun 17-May-15 07:04:31

Soono be*…and that is just one glass of pre-dinner wine. Whoops! *soontobe is of course the poster I was addressing.

absent Sun 17-May-15 07:03:01

Soono be Are you sure that jingl liked you in the first place, never mind again? She can be quite capricious in her likes and dislikes. (jingl That is not any kind of criticism of you.)

NfkDumpling Sun 17-May-15 06:39:54

I missed it too - I think. Either that, or didn't notice anything offensive and missed it being deleted. I hate it, really hate it when GN delete something, and I didn't see it.

And if something is deemed to need deleting, please can we have a reason other than it breaching the guidelines? I want to know which ones. Obscenity? Liability? Bad language? Bad taste? Not something a grandparent should say?

janeainsworth Sat 16-May-15 22:52:33

Tell me jingl, why is ok for you to describe Soutra as having 'precious sensibilities' ( which sounds sarcastic whether you intended it or not) and to tell Farnorth not to 'worry her pretty little head' ( also comes across as sarcastic), and then further down the thread, complain that you yourself are the recipient of snide remarks?
I have never actually seen any snide remarks levelled at you, but I've seen you fire off plenty yourself.
confused

soontobe Sat 16-May-15 22:41:41

jingl. Someday in the future you may like me again. It is how you are smile

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 16-May-15 21:49:11

And I repeat. The posts to me from Soutra came across as plain nasty. And if you bother to read the thread it is there in black and white.

I do not know the personal details of posters' lives, and I think it is unreasonable that we cannot defend ourselves without other posters coming on and calling us "snide", which I take as an insult. angry this is a forum. If you are feeling that fragile don't have a pop at others, because, in my case, it will come right back at you.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 16-May-15 21:44:44

That was to soontobe.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 16-May-15 21:43:36

"from a religious point of view" ???

There was nothing religious about it! What are you talking about?! And I am sick of your bloody self satisfied preaching. hmm

absent Sat 16-May-15 19:54:41

trisher I think you need to re-read A Modest Proposal. Swift's suggested "solution" to the problem of famine in Ireland was much harsher than that.

annodomini Sat 16-May-15 19:27:18

Four years and counting, I don't think I've ever had a post deleted, soon. However, I am open to correction! hmm

Ana Sat 16-May-15 19:15:45

I don't think that's at all likely in the case of a great many Gransnetters, soontobe! hmm

soontobe Sat 16-May-15 19:13:27

jingl
I learnt from the pompa episode, that no matter how often a poster is on grnanset, not all posters, will know another poster by a long way.
I also realised, that by the same token, not everyone will read all threads, by a long way. No matter if they are witty or have capital letters or whatever. And no matter, what time of day, or which day they are posted.

For what it is worth, from a religious point of view, it sounds like the thread wasnt really suitable was it? Soutra does have a point.

It is probably quite likely, that we will all get at least one post or thread deleted while we are on gransnet, even possibly unfairly. That is the nature of gransnet and internet forums.