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trisher Sat 16-May-15 10:25:17

I recently had a post deleted because it contravened the guidelines, it wasn't obscene, racist or a personal attack. It was a very bad taste joke the subject of which doesn't really matter. There is in British politics a long history of using satire and bad taste to highlight problems and I wonder why Gransnet feel this is unsuitable for the forums? I certainly would make the joke I made on here to my friends. It was posted on a thread with a warning about bad language so not for the fainthearted. Presumably Jonthan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" where he proposes that the Irish should eat their children as a solution to famine would be regarded as unacceptable and deleted. Come on Gransnet, either set up a warning system and make some posts more appropriate to thinking adults, or just accept the satire part of political debate, but please stop acting like Nanny, we are grown ups!

rosesarered Sat 16-May-15 10:30:09

Gransnet mods will have their reasons.I didn't see the post so don't know what the 'joke' was about, but maybe they thought there has been enough of this sort of thing on the political threads already, or that what you posted was libellous.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 16-May-15 10:55:23

PM me and tell me what you said! smile

Soutra Sat 16-May-15 10:56:19

If you admit it was a very bad taste joke perhaps you have answered your own question?

trisher Sat 16-May-15 11:09:39

But as I said bad taste and saying the unacceptable as a joke have always been part of political debate in the UK Why is Gransnet afraid of this?

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 16-May-15 11:12:11

Oh! It was on that threa d! I must have read that. Read all the replies. Didn't noticed anything wrong. Can't remember what is said!

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 16-May-15 11:13:47

Yeah well, Souta. You found the whole thing disturbing to your precious sensibilities. hmm

I'm really miffed that got deleted.

FarNorth Sat 16-May-15 11:18:32

Modern comedy uses a lot of jokes that are passed off as cutting edge but are actually just plain offensive.
Even with a warning, I'd be against having those sorts of jokes on Gransnet.
Can't comment on yours, tho, trisher.

trisher Sat 16-May-15 11:22:40

Soutra I have no objection to you having delicate sensibilities and if there was a warning system you could stay away from things that upset you. What I don't understand is why your feelings should stand in the way of what was actually a real comment on society, the standards that we set, the way things have changed and the present government- all in a one line joke I quite liked!

FarNorth Sat 16-May-15 11:26:21

Oh, go on, tell us it again grin

trisher Sat 16-May-15 11:39:39

Ooh are you trying to get me banned!!! I can only say it concerned 2 celebrities, one no longer with us,the other incarcerated. I proposed the latter as a minister with responsibility for looking after an area of the population he is now considered totally inappropriate for, and added it was a pity the other wasn't available. Of course 10 or 15 years ago both might actually have been given such a job!

Soutra Sat 16-May-15 11:42:29

FFS who says (snide comments flying towards me today or what) that I have delicate sensibilities .
In what way did I Stand in the way bah blah blah
I didn't see the bl**dy joke whatever it was probably because I have spent all of last week with my DH who was taken to A&E first thing on Monday morning, so please spare me your recriminations about curbing your " freedom of expression" and the snide comments.
If GNHQ saw fit to delete your post it was NOTHING to do with me, get it?and jingl I merely commented that I failed to find Huff Posts expletives particularly witty, but clearly not agreeing with you lines me up as a suitable Mary Whitehouse lookalike target.

FarNorth Sat 16-May-15 11:46:03

Oh yes, I did see that. It seemed okay to me but maybe it was seen as a possibly libellous slur on politicians who have recently been appointed to certain posts. ??

kittylester Sat 16-May-15 11:51:14

Those attacks on Soutra were uncalled for. I didn't see it or notice anything wrong if I did see it but, flipping heck, Soutra is allowed to comment on a thread.

FarNorth Sat 16-May-15 11:51:53

I didn't realise the OP of that thread was meant to be joke, btw. It seemed like a straightforward statement of opinion to me so I was a little confused by all the tee-heeing that was going on.

soontobe Sat 16-May-15 12:10:57

I didnt see trishers joke.
I didnt see much of jingls? bad language thread.

From what trisher has posted of the joke, I too might assume that it has something to with the libel laws?

I dont know what the deletion message said.
I think I am right in saying that gransnet said they were going to look into having deletion messages a bit more accurate by giving a more detailed reason for deletions?

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 16-May-15 12:29:50

Oh! FFS! I don't believe there as a single GNr who didn't read that thread. it was a title to draw in the curious ones. grin

Alright. Excluding you St soon.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 16-May-15 12:30:50

Don't worry your little head FarNorth. grin

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 16-May-15 12:43:26

Soutra. The way you responded to me on that thread w as unnecessary. It was plain nasty.

FarNorth Sat 16-May-15 12:55:12

I'm not worrying jingls. You and your little pals can teehee at bad language as much as you like.

Eloethan Sat 16-May-15 13:02:17

If I'm thinking of the same one - it did have some bad language in it - I thought it was quite funny. But perhaps it was something else.

I don't think bad language should be censored.

Soutra Sat 16-May-15 13:03:59

Jingl, I'm so sorry you found my response
it all seems a bit pointless, funny, I don't think so
Or
quoting from the Church Times again?
"plain nasty"

I wonder which part of what I said, which was of course about the posts qualified as "nasty" ?

Ana Sat 16-May-15 13:19:45

Don't GNHQ tell the member in question the reason for the deletion of their post? I'm sure they used to.

pompa Sat 16-May-15 13:28:38

I didn't see any of the threads concerned. Where was I ?
If the OP issues a relevant warning in their OP, I am happy for most adult themes to be covered. I'd prefer not to see bad language in general threads, but if warning has been given (as I believe it was) it's up to me if I read further (which I probably would.).
However there are boundaries which should not be crossed and I trust GNHQ to police that boundary. I would hope that GN gave a full explanation to the poster why their post was deleted, otherwise how do they know here GN set those boundaries.

I does make a change for it not to be me, that is the whipping boy smile

We could of course use the BBFC rating codes -- U, PG, 18

trisher Sat 16-May-15 14:03:10

I just checked my in box and no message explaining anything to me. Just the public post that it was deleted for breaking the forum guidelines. I think a rating code system would be good PG might be a problem though!!!!