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Bez Tue 18-Aug-15 13:53:24

Today while scrolling down though the new posts on my thread the Gransnet one came up - I usually just glance at that and have not looked at the whole post in detail for a long time. The whole of the thread about DNA came up which surprised me and then I looked further and found the whole discussion about caravan parks was there too. - I did not look any further.
I do not think that this is what posters expect - some of the things people put on their posts can make them identifiable by people who know them and while appreciating that anything you write on line is not 'safe' I did not expect to see this when Facebook is a totally different place to a site such as here.
I realise many of you may well be aware of this but people who do not use Facebook will not.

Grannyknot Wed 19-Aug-15 07:08:19

bags my Facebook security settings are very robust. I've never seen anything about Gransnet on my Facebook page. I don't go near a GN competition if entry is on Facebook. I choose to keep the two activities separate. So I was surprised to find out that a thread that I started on the GN public forums, ended up on Facebook. And that made me feel uncomfortable. But as I said, I get it now that both are equally public. Now when I start a thread, I will think "this might end up on Facebook".

Grannyknot Wed 19-Aug-15 06:59:25

I'm not in a state of panic about it. I think that GN forum "proper", with it's sense of community, tricks me into thinking I'm chatting to a select smile group, and that if Joe or Joan Public bothered to read it, they'd be of a similar mindset. Whereas Facebook feels like the world and his wife could be on there. I didn't understand how it worked. Now I do. I'm still not happy at the thought but I'm not cross any more.

ana there's a thought, why do HQ not post one of the political threads on Facebook grin

thatbags Wed 19-Aug-15 06:49:34

Gransnet is not in control of what anyone has one their Facebook page, the page owner is. So if you don't want Gransnet links on your Facebook page, don't have them on your Facebook page. It really is that simple.

You can still look at Gransnet's Facebook page whenever you like and you can still comment on the forums whenever you like.

In short, there is no problem.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 18-Aug-15 22:59:37

Oh yeah. That's for sure. wink

Ana Tue 18-Aug-15 22:58:49

Of course they do! And even more can't get enough of our political threads...hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 18-Aug-15 22:45:48

I think Gransnet has a huge readership. Absolutely millions of people around the world lap up every little thing I say. smile

janeainsworth Tue 18-Aug-15 22:36:23

I very much doubt that 5 million people would look up Gransnet on Facebook.
I doubt that 200,000 would.
The impression I get is that there are probably about 100 fairly regular posters on GN, maybe 300 if you count the people who come on just to enter the competitions.
I think GN would like us to believe there are maybe 10 - 15000 who are registered but never post.
Only some of those will have 'liked' GNs Facebook page - and they are the only people who will see GN's postings in FB, except that if a gransnetter comments on something GN have posted, then their FB friends will see it too.
So to ensure that your FB friends don't guess who you are on GN, the remedy is simple - just don't comment on GN's FB page.
I don't understand the panic here.

soontobe Tue 18-Aug-15 21:08:55

I quite agree that they are very upfront.

I also agree that it is very public and am always mindful, every single time I post.

But there is still public, as in 200,000 reading it. And public as in 5 million reading something. [figures very rough obviously].

thatbags Tue 18-Aug-15 21:02:20

You can't get more public than a public forum. Gransnet is perfectly up front about being a public forum. This means anyone can look at what's posted on it whether or not they are gransnetters themselves. The same applies to Gransnet's Facebook page. You don,t have to have a Facebook account to look at public Facebook pages.

soontobe Tue 18-Aug-15 20:59:44

x post, and now thatbags has written her posts, mine may be totally wrong and irrelvant.
Goodnight!

soontobe Tue 18-Aug-15 20:58:05

Not sure if it is worth me writing this. And assuming I have got it right.

I think the issue is that people know that gransnet is an open forum but are also aware that the site does not have that big a readership.

But once threads from here appear on Facebook, it opens the threads up to a wider readership than before.

thatbags Tue 18-Aug-15 20:58:03

I've just clicked on the Gransnet Facebook link to the bull running thread. The thread opened on this same Gransnet site that I'm writing this post on right now, not on Facebook. This is how links usually work between sites.

thatbags Tue 18-Aug-15 20:53:29

bez, I don't understand what you mean when you say that a whole thread shows on FB. When I click on a thread link on FB, which is all that shows on my FB page, the "whole thread" as you call it is opened in another browser window on The Gransnet site, not on Facebook. It is via Facebook, certainly, but not on your Facebook for all your FB friends to see.

Does it work differently on your Facebook page?

Grannyknot Tue 18-Aug-15 20:48:45

Bez your post of 19:25 is what I mean.

jane I understand that, but see above.

Anyway I get it now, the same people who would 'like' GN on fb, and be bothered to read the threads, are likely to have an interest in these forums (so, not everyone on fb).

Bez Tue 18-Aug-15 20:38:37

Despite some obvious disquiet about Facebook posts - the bull running one is up in all it's glory now.

rubylady Tue 18-Aug-15 19:33:07

As said in "My Fair Lady" - Just keep it to talking about your health and the weather!

Bez Tue 18-Aug-15 19:25:59

If people are really interested to see what is said on this site then they can come onto it - Facebook is used by many more people than here - and some sites come up in the news streams for people to like and also Facebook suggest sites for you look at or like - therefore I think it is very public and can be seen by more people. That is why I was very surprised to see a whole thread come up.

Elegran Tue 18-Aug-15 19:15:57

It is said often on the forums, that they are not closed - anyone at all can see them. If you were to post that you hate the names your neighbour has given her children, and quote those names, and go on to say that their BMW car blocks your drive and their purple and yellow striped curtains give you a migraine, then if said neighbour comes across that thread while searching the net for, say, any mention of the "unique" name they gave their beloved daughter, and notices the name of their equally weirdly labelled adored son, plus a BMW, then purple and yellow striped curtains - well, they are going to be in no doubt who posted it and what you think of them, are they?

janeainsworth Tue 18-Aug-15 18:57:52

Gk Anyone who logs onto Gransnet, whether they're a member or not, can see your caravan thread and anything else you write.

Not sure how accessing GN via Facebook is any different?
All that the Gransnet page on FB does is provide a link to your thread, and it's only visible to people who have 'liked' Gransnet's page, anyway.

Don't worry be happy smile

Grannyknot Tue 18-Aug-15 18:42:37

Thanks for further explanation bags and Lucy. However (and maybe I just don't understand) and by way of explanation from my side, as I understand fb: i am on two "Closed Groups" on Facebook where I asked to join the group and an admin person added me. So that's what is different - the Gransnet facebook page is public. So to me it is an open page.

A closed group is not public and therefore different to getting notifications from an open or public facebook page because you've "liked" it.

LucyGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 18-Aug-15 18:18:58

Bez, that member is welcome to change her username if her anonymity is threatened - we're always happy to do so if that is a genuine concern.

Grannyknot, sorry you feel that way (and agree the search function could be better blush). An open page on here really isn't that much different than an open page on Facebook though, except the FB post only shows a small 'teaser' of what the thread is about - the end result is exactly the same and most people who interact with our page will be gransnetters or followers of the site anyway. Whether someone has found a thread through Google, or clicked a link on Facebook, the fact remains that they will see a comment made by an anonymous (thanks to their username) poster.

It's also worth mentioning that a lot of visitors do find us while simply Googling other things. Certain key words will bring up threads from the site without even mentioning Gransnet, so it's always worth thinking about whether you're happy for your post to go on an open forum - because it really is open.

Obviously we'd never start promoting a sensitive thread on other platforms, we are careful about that, but part of being a forum is that we want people to come and visit us and join in the discussions. Keeping them hush hush wouldn't work for the type of site that we are.

Also, I just want to reiterate that Gransnet and Facebook are not technically linked. Every post that appears on FB is chosen by us and only a link to the thread, plus an illustrative quote is shown. Even if you've liked our FB page, there's still no connection anyone could make between your GN and FB account unless you've used your real name on both sites, and had commented or liked that FB post. It's not advisable to use your real name on an open forum if you are concerned about anonymity - but then some people aren't particularly bothered, it's very much a personal choice.

If anyone has used their real name as their username and wants to change, just get in touch.

thatbags Tue 18-Aug-15 18:15:18

It's not an open page on FB. That is what Lucy is trying to say. Links to Gransnet threads will only appear on your FB page if you have 'liked' the Gransnet FB page. So, if you have 'liked' the GN FB page and if you're worried, unlike it. End of problem. Not that I think there is a problem. The whole thread will only appear via FB if you click on the link.

Grannyknot Tue 18-Aug-15 17:14:04

Lucy I do realise this is a public forum and sometimes when I want to search for a thread on GN, I resort to Google (because the search function on here is hopeless) and I usually find what I am looking for.

"Grannychats" on here is one thing but an open page on facebook is another matter altogether.

As far as the caravan thread goes, I'm out (as a dragon would say).

Bez Tue 18-Aug-15 16:33:04

That was what we were actually discussing as one member says that it is her name so was more concerned!

LucyGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 18-Aug-15 15:16:35

Also, just to reassure everyone - there is no way of linking your Gransnet profile to your Facebook account, it's not technically possible. So, if there's a thread on Facebook that you happen to have commented on, all anyone will know about (once they've actually clicked through to the thread on Gransnet) is your anonymous username - they will not see your Facebook account at any stage.