Ok Cari

Just to change the subject before the thread reaches its natural end, I've solved the PM mystery.

I have just sent one via the mobile site, although my laptop wouldn't. Of course, there's no telling whether any of the ones we've sent have been received, unless someone gets a reply!

(sorry about my 'twaddle' remark janea)

So will jings return? Anyone actually know?

Never been into Soops kitchen. Think I might be a bit too controversial. Too much cosyness terrifies me.

That's fine Merlot I wasn't trying to drag you into anything just trying to understand.

No problem ana

I know exactly who what Merlot is talking about.

Bags is correct. jingl and I have clashed many a time but I'd never call her vicious, underhand and vindictive.

I understand merlot. You've put your opinion across very well.

I too have fallen out with Jing occasionally, but she doesn't bear grudges and is a great person to have on GN, I would love to see her back. Without characters like Jings, GN would be a beige place.

If you are looking at this Jings Hugs and

Pompa xx

merlotgran The forums on Gransnet are many and varied. Sadly, I am not gifted, as are many, with the ability to debate serious issues. All that I have attempted to do is talk about daily ups and downs with any Gransnetter who enjoys uncomplicated banter. I do not pretend to be anything other than pleasant and courteous. It is not in my nature to invite or participate in confrontation. I am perfectly happy in my simple-minded way. All I ask is that every member of Gransnet enjoys whatever forum they choose to comment on.

Well, I have to say this......when anyone starts criticising Soops Kitchen, it's a poor bloody show. It is a place of refuge, happy and sad chat and supportive with it.
Bloody disgraceful.

Read merlot's post again, wot. Carefully. It's written carefully so it deserves careful reading. Nothing disgraceful about it. It's not a criticism of the kitchen itself.

I think you know that.

bags me old pal...what exactly is it that merlotgran is unhappy with?

Sorry. Paranoia from this thread has me in it's grip.

trisher I respect that too much cosiness terrifies you. Confrontation dismays me. Neither of us is right or wrong. We are entitled to our preferences. As far as I'm aware, I have not hurt another Gransnetter by word or deed.

It may not be a criticism of the "Kitchen" itself, although it is described as divisive but it is a fairly damning indictment of some of the people who post regularly there.
Phrases such as "crafty enough to slip the halo back in place" or "nasty vitriolic stuff" can only be read one way, and "a good old flounce with another username in the back of the wardrobe" omits to mention that if a member leaves because of snide criticism by other named or unnamed persons, they are obliged by GN to change their username
So, yes I have read it carefully and if it is designed to be a valedictory salvo before this contentious thread bites the dust it has probably achieved its aim.
Speaking as someone who left GN because of one snide and cutting remark too far and returned with another username (as obliged to) perhaps I am one of the targets, but I make no apology for changing my username as there is no alternative. How often does that have to be explained?

soop, I don't get it either. If people want to retreat somewhere to link their wounds, the kitchen is a place for them. No one needs to follow them to see what they are saying about other threads. for you.

Thank you, bags.

Soop, bags is right when she says I wrote my post carefully. I was trying to put across that the ethos of the kitchen is sometimes abused by posters who are only too happy to discuss other threads in a back slapping way even though this is frowned upon by HQ sometimes to the point of threads being deleted.

The kitchen is not the place for any of us to wade in to defend the contents of another thread. We respect its values but it doesn't always cut both ways.

I really meant it when I said I hoped you would understand.

merlotgran If I've misunderstood your remarks, I owe you an apology.
Stuff to do. All totally uninteresting. A girls gotta do what a girl needs to do. hey ho! As bags would say.

Having done some stuff that needed doing I have glanced again at this thread and think I'll beat a hasty retreat and look at some political threads for a bit of light relief!

Just posting, btw, to hasten the march towards 1,000 posts no wooden spoon or tin hat required.

I might start another one after 1,000...'OK Cari 2'

Please no .....

972

Surely there is room on GN for all types of thread, quiet ones like the Kitchen where one can relax, humorous ones and more serious and often excitable threads such as the political ones. I dip in and out of most, although I tend to steer clear of political and religious ones as I am not well enough informed to debate sensibly.

I think merlot has explained her aim quite well in her 1500hrs post, soop. It was not the litchen she was objecting to but the way one or two posters use it.

The real point has been made by several posters: there should be room on GN for quiet 'rooms' like the kitchen, noisy rumbustious rooms like the political threads, and rooms where sharp retorts are made by posters who feel really upset about happenings in places like Aleppo.

Are we morphing again ? What do Gners do with litchen ?

In that case thatbags let's lose the "divisive" indictment.
If there is room for all on whatever threads they choose to post on then it follows that no thread is exclusive or divisive. I also note that you say you formed this opinion merlot, the day Soop's Kitchen was created
Bit of a premature judgement? At that point surely NOBODY had done any of the dreadful things you quote.