Feminist board

I agree with janea and only read the OP not the board heading.

Well I'd like a rational discussion about all sorts of issues including feminist issues but everybody has to agree first not to descend into slurs and insults, not to flounce and say they're not discussing the issue any more and not to just ignore genuine questions or other view points. Is it possible do you think?

I doubt it Jayanna

Ha, you're the third person I've come across in the last hour who thinks it's Friday today - and that includes me!

I'd be interested in threads about feminism. I'm not sure I could contribute much, because despite being in my 60's, I feel I'm just a learner. Feminism has different battles to wage today from the 1970's when it was about equal pay, and divorce laws and so on. Much has been achieved but that has also uncovered more that needs to be achieved.

I would have a go, I'm definitely NOT a feminist. Various reasons, probably outdated.
Except for equal pay for equal work.
My younger sister is a strong feminist, born postwar.

If we had a board/forum for every "ist" or "ism" going, where on earth would it end?

I have male friend who declares himself to be a feminist, well bully for him. I would rather be a "peopleist".

Equality matters, of course, but it really invades my nasal cavity when people start on about there not being enough women/disabled people/ethnic minorities etc on boards or other such.

Get there on merit, not as someone who has just been put in that position to meet a (sometimes self imposed, in a company) quota.

At this rate some companies will start to feel that they are not inclusive enough unless they have an LGBGT, left handed disabled Tibetan Yak herder, either on the board or listed as one of the trustees.

Ooops, should be LGBTG, unless the typo above is actually a group of which I have not heard.

Well put phoenix.

Well said Phoenix. I once read a quote that stated "Women dont believe in equality as they would never let men get that far" When you listen to the witches coven that is listed as loose women on t.v you begin to think the quote was spot on.

phoenix oh dear,it's very weak argument that rests on the slippery slope fallacy. Why would having a feminist board lead to boards for every ism or ist ( as you so dismissively call them)? But even if it did, if people wanted them, why would that be a negative thing? I'm sure there are many boards that some of us never go near and that's absolutely fine, - there are those that frequent those boards and enjoy them. The rest of your post is then a generalised criticism of the desirability or otherwise of representation on company boards. What has that to do with a feminism board on GN?

grannypiper your use of the words 'witches coven' would make an interesting thread on a feminist board ' Why do some women use negative language about other women'

My thinking behind having such a board is that it would allow some indepth discussion on certain issues from a feminist perspective and on feminism in general. People who are interested can then click on if they wish. People would realise that that was the focus.

Just a little aside.
On our local news the woman who was raped whilst very drunk, waived her right to anonymity , to say that the woman judge who was widely condemned for saying that women should be more careful not to put themselves in this situation, was actually quite right. It is the woman's duty to look after themselves.
What do the feminists think of that?

I think the judge and the 'victim' were right Surely we all have to take rsponibity for our own actions He was a rapist and should have been punished accordingly but she was foolish and foolishness needs recognising too
I don't know if I m a feminist or not I m totally on board with women rights but I m also on board with every one else who aren't given their rights some men are in awful work situations. Anyone who is bullied, victimised, racially abused, no matter what their colour creed or gender is, would be fully supported by me

ann that, along with the judge and the cricketer case would make a great discussion point about women's responsibility and the response of the criminal justice system. There would be I guess a variety of responses from 'feminists' because there's a variety of feminists

I'm not sure whether I'm a feminist or not, because I'm not actually sure what a feminist is for or against. I certainly believe in equality in opportunity, pay, legal rights and probably other things I can't remember this early in the morning. However I do think women tend to be their own worst enemies: running around after people at home (because we're the caring sex); getting so drunk and incapable that we have no idea where we are and what is safe and what isn't; being all weak and feminine and then wondering why we're not taken seriously; accepting comments about our appearance in national newspapers when we're one of the most important people in the country rather than a discussion of what we're trying to achieve. Does that help rigby?

I'm not sure we need a separate board for feminism, lots of different subjects can and are debated on the existing boards. Unfortunately being called a feminist these days is almost used as an insult because of so many "extremists" who claim sexism for the slightest reason. I am all in favour of equality but I would rather fight for (and discuss) equality for everyone not just for one gender. It is perceived (whether rightly or wrongly) that men suffer inequality when being sentenced for crime, women apparently being given non custodial sentences for the same crime. The disabled, gays, transgender in fact anyone who differs from the "norm" all face much more pronounced prejudice than women.

Well said sunseeker

Re the thread about the judge, I think most posters said what they wanted to say and more or less agreed with your OP then went.

I always remember a wonderful lady who was my boss many years ago - she said she was a feminist but not a women's libber. Quietly but assertively confident, feminine and not aggressive, very much 'her own person', someone I admired tremendously.

In the interest of equality there would also have to be a Masculinist ( Sorry know that's not a word) Board .

GN is for everyone,
A strictly feminist board could alienate other Grandads (Males) from joining GN

Find I am becoming more of a feminist as I get older! I think younger men are less sexist

It's a "no" from me.

It's a no from me too

It is a NO from me, too. There are enough different topic headings at the moment. A feminist viewpoint can be applied to any subject (and without even mentioning the words "feminist" or "women's rights", just "I think . . " or "In law . . ." or "It would be unfair if . . .". Feminist has become a label to argue about in itself, without any reference to legality or natural fairness.)

A NO from me

Rather patronising tone in your post to me, Rigby I'd take umbrage if I could only get the lid off the bottle!