Feminist board

I made it after I'd been quite frustrated by a string of victim bluing posts on the judge/cricket thread and wasn't getting much support - that's improved now but it had made me think about a feminist board

Actually -River I just went back to the beginning of this thread and I said quite clearly what I meant by talking to myself and the context within which that occurred. I think you're being a bit unfair on reflection. Or do people just read the title of a thread and make up thrir mind?

I think my point and my "No" vote, far from being dog in the manger, is that if there is an issue anyone of us wants to discuss we can start a thread without necessarily pigeon holing it by giving it a label. By insisting (for this is what it sounds like) on it being under the "Feminism" umbrella presupposes a feminist issue and invites a feminist response as opposed to a bonkers issue and a common sense response in many cases.
I cannot be the only person who looks at "Active conversations" and picks out threads which grab my attention or interest me regardless of which "topic" they fall under
So I said my personal view was a No because I don't think it is necessary, but if enough people and GNHQ think otherwise - fine.
Out of interest, why should I "abstain" if I do have an opinion.

On the other hand - if a thread naturally meanders towards feminist views/ arguments, would someone step in and direct posters to the Feminist threads?
I'm all for full and fair discussions of feminist issues but think it's entirely natural that they should crop up as and when.
Obviously a 'feminist'thread can be started by anyone, anytime.
Discussions involving feminist issues should be inclusive.
Recently I had a fascinating discussion about equal rights and Emmeline Pankhurst with my 7yrold DGD.
Would that go in a thread about Bright and interesting grandchild, Budding feminist or How things have changed?
Would it matter?

MB what is the matter with you - first you use words like demarcation, card carrying feminist and now insistence on things being under the feminist board - I never never never neve said or implied any of that. Why are you making all this up? Anyone would think I'd suggested eating babies. You're being unfair and not the only one. So you and others don't want a feminist board - that's fine but you don't have to object to things I've never said. And of course people choose where they think threads should go - AIBU, Chat and News and Politics for example could easily be the chosen board of many threads. And the dog in a manger comment was for ab as should have been clear if you'd RTFT. So before you retire for the night would you or anyone else like to make up some more accusations against me and criticise some more things I never said or have you had enough of giving me a good kicking for what was just an idea?

mcem where on earth did you get the idea that there would be redirection towards the feminist thread? FFS - atm as you say threads meander, no one jumps in and says oh this should be on another board. Why are some of you spinning this so much? People start threads, people choose where to put the, why would this be any different? Anyway it's not going to happen and that's fine - it was just a suggestion but please any of you do jump in to the latest sport on GN. I would hate to spoil your fun.

Why is this such an issue?
Feminist issues may be discussed whenever anybody so chooses, so why get so het up? It's almost as if you want to generate a spat.
Alas, CBA

I appreciate this is something Rigby46 feels strongly about but it does seem to me she (I am assuming she, apologies if that is incorrect) is coming across as being unnecessarily argumentative in her posts. GNHQ have asked who wants a separate board, we are all free to give our views on that.

sunseeker you and I had what I thought was a good exchange of views on this thread - but then, you didn't criticise me for saying things I hadn't said. That's really irritated me today and quite frankly, it's been bloody unfair. Yes I have been argumentative because some people have behaved like this and I've argued back because I won't accept that. Yes of course everyone is entitled to give their views but they are not entitled to attribute misleading and untrue views or statements to me. And stop being such a GF -MB

I can't remember what GF is (it sounds like something Kenneth Williams would say on around the Horne!) but I shall accept that in the spirit in which I am sure it was intended

Round the Horne of course.

Gruntfuttock?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HvCRM2xjjY

Sorry it's a no from me too. Like many others, I don't think a specific topic is needed "feminism" because discussions concerning any subject can be started in chat; news etc. Again, like others, I just scroll through "active", see if there's something that interests me and go to that thread. The department that the thread is in has no bearing on my choice at all. Who's posting on that thread is sometimes a deciding factor though.

MawBroon, thank you for the link, loved it

We could I suppose call it "The Women's Room" seeing as Grandads have a shed. (And how many of you remember reading that?)

I have not read details in all posts but if the OP is suggesting a board to discuss feminist theory and the different factions that go under the umbrella of feminism why not?

I was actually quite ambivalent about the idea. Didn't think there was much need for it but no serious objection if people choose to start a thread/board/topic on anything they like.
AB was shot down for using the word bossy.
As this thread progressed the bossiness became even more apparent - enough that
I'm now saying no.
Arguments in empty rooms do come to mind.

It didn't seem to me that she wanted a topic for feminists to use, more one to discuss what it is and what it isn't. However, I don't think that needs a whole new topic, it is more a thread heading.

And yes, a certain amount of bossiness has become evident.

There are already several topics that seem to attract a huge level of bossiness to posters. I'd like to contribute to discussions but I don't want to be harangued for "evidence" or "sources" or to be told that my opinion isn't valid because "it's just plain wrong". Feminism means different things to different people, depending upon experiences; life choices or religious beliefs etc. I don't believe that anyone's opinion is "wrong" and I don't want to be bossed by anyone demanding that I justify my opinion.

I would like to broaden this discussion by introducing a 13-year-old blogger, my lovely GD. To the question,'why am I a feminist', she wrote:

"Because, there are girls out there who would be killed for reading a book, for going to school, for speaking her mind, for saying "No" to a man who does not want to listen. There are girls out in the world who are forced to marry even before they become teenagers, I do not need feminism because I already have it. But, they do need it. So I will stand with them, I will help them every step of the way. And I will label myself with the term feminist, because I want to help girls who are not able to help themselves. In my life, I wish to help people. I want to go out into the world and help people in any way I can. I can do that, do you want to know why? Because, I am a girl and I can do anything."

Although I would question the assertion that she doesn't 'need feminism' - wait till she gets out into the wider world - I am so proud of her wider perspective on feminism with which I unreservedly agree.

Anyone else thinking "here we bloody go again" or is it just me?

Actually, when you think about it, it is almost an object lesson in how a thread can become a slanging match!

"Discussion" my arse!

I don't agree it was to investigate/discuss what is or isn't "Feminism" Elegran, OP said she would like to see a board (forum?) where she says she can "talk to myself on feminist issues".

I would ask WHO decides what is or isn't a "feminist issue" but I won't because I really don't want all that to start up again.

Well done to your GD anno.
I think there's a lot of pressure on young people now to make a career for themselves in a survival-of-the -fittest sort of way.
It's refreshing to hear that some do have altruistic ideals & vision.