Rules for GN cafe

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I started this thread - of course it was a reference to me. Who else has started a thread about SK? Come on, do tell... Oh wait, you can't.

I didn't introduce crossness, but it is a theme at the moment. There's a lot of it about!

You are not alone, Rigby It wasn't a veiled reference to you at all.

And Elegan

Perhaps those who are getting so cross about the (occasional) references in SK to retiring from specific threads so much that they have to start a whole thread to defend themselves ....

You clearly mean me so why not have the straightforwardness to say so? And since when did bring cross become such an in word on GN?
Some might almost think it's code for something else......

Maybe the error 404 has come down on us as a bolt from the skies.

I too object to Jo Cox being brought into "kitchen' affairs, maybe thats where the rot started. Its an aniversary after all, and there are always bandwagon jumpers

Elegan you have just demonstrated by point beautifully - thank you so much.

Well * kitty* it's supposed to be non judgemental on there and so SPECIFICALLY criticising and whinging about the political threads and the posters on them is not being that is it? Why not PM one of your mates if you want to have a moan about a SPECIFIC thread/ group of threads? Sorry if you don't get this. The arguments of the apologists for the misuse of SK are getting increasing arcane - they know really ( well some of them do) that it's not on but can't admit it so constantly miss the point. It's simple really - SK is supposed to be a safe haven for ANYONE who wants it. Ergo, specific groups of posters from specific threads should not be being negatively targeted on there. You know it makes sense ( or do you?). I hope that's cross enough for you dear.

Perhaps those who are getting so cross about the (occasional) references in SK to retiring from specific threads so much that they have to start a whole thread to defend themselves could pay a visit to the threads on estrangement, where the regular posters are frequently very disparaging of what specific visitors to the thread have posted.

They could have a ball there - plenty of people to start a fight with, and ones who will fight back and give as good as they get.

That makes it judgmental, kitty.

I can't see any reason why the fact that a poster has had a hard time on other threads shouldn't be raised in the kitchen - in passing - just like real life and, as in real life, someone should be able to say 'I hear you'!

ab the safe haven aspect of SK is about having a safe haven from a whole range of life's issues

Elegran I don't think the point is WHAT people are retreating from in SK , it's their arrogant assumption that they can slag off those of us on the political threads when they do so and that the rules don't apply to them whilst they clutch their pearls on other threads. Baggs the whinging moaning complaining about the political threads on SK is a regular phenomenon NOT a mistake. If you want evidence, look at the response to djs post on the cross posters thread - some users of SK think they have a RIGHT to criticise the political posters whilst on SK as long as they don't mention names. As I said, there's a group on SK who think they are above the rules and/or make them up as they go along.

I think Jo Cox's politicalness involved "all-togetherness" so I don't see that her memory is being sullied by being mentioned in connection with something similar.

By the way, it is not politics that people want to retreat from, it is the batterings that are handed out to them by political enthusiasts when heads peek over the parapet.

Some people were not here when the first soops kitchen was opened.
Nothing wrong with people going to soops kitchen if they feel they do not like the arguments on the political threads.
There is something wrong with them going on and complaining about groups of people on the political threads.
It's up to people who go on soops kitchen and the gransnet cafe forum to keep it as a safe haven.

Actually, HQ, I do object to the idea of Jo Cox being coopted to the gransnet cafe forum.
She was very political, wasn't she? That's why she was killed.

It was very clear when the first Soop Kitchen was opened that its purpose was to be a safe haven for those who were finding the more argumentative threads agitating in ways they couldn't cope with. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

However, I agree that cross thread water-tightness is the ideal, so if someone has angered you on one thread you shouldn't then go and complain about it on another thread, expect in a very general way such as "I'm not coping with argy bargy very well today". That, to me, is as 'pointy' as it should ever get.

We all make mistakes sometimes though.

You're fighting a losing battle Rigby.

<pokes head over political threads parapet to assess whether or not it's safe to tie up the last of the (apolitical) bunting>...

The above was written by Lara on the Invitation thread yesterday, and I complained.

Sigh ........

So sad that anyone has To seek a safe haven

Lara - sorry but you haven't asked the question. Some posters think that as long as names aren't mentioned, they can slag off groups of posters on the political threads? Are you saying they can or they can't and that as long as individuals aren't named, it's OK - hie is that being non judgemental?

Jane have you missed the point? I fully understand the need for SK - I don't understand why it's ok for some posters to go on their and slag off the political threads and pass judgement on those that post on them. That's what I'm asking HQ about.

GN threads can rapidly turn into nasty arguments. A quick look at SK leads me to think that those on it are looking for a place to offload. Maybe those upset by unpleasant posts need a place where they will find friendlier responses from kindred spirits. 'Rules' won't prevent this basic human urge. Most posters on GN are nice kind people not looking for arguments. Some people deliberately avoid the political threads. Maybe some people should avoid the less confrontational threads?

Thread about a thread.
No further comment.

I don't think there is a thread for slagging off other posters rigby
That is certainly not the case in Soop's Kitchen.
However if you feel we need one, you could start one.