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Flaming - what is GNHQs approach to this?

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GracesGranMK2 Fri 27-Oct-17 08:16:48

I apologise for being far too easily tempted into replying to the 'flamers', but I do wonder if GN has any rules that apply to such posters.

A discussion on a thread, usually a politics one, can be bouncing backwards and forwards about the topic and then they turn up. There are only a few but you can recognise them by the way they never put forward an actual political argument. The most important thing they can come up with is personal criticism of either the politicians they have chosen as their target or the people who may be making positive point about the politics of that person or the party they don't like either.

This is not discussion but a deliberate attempt to inflame the thread in an attempt to derail the reasoned argument they don't like. On many forums they would be stopped from doing this. What, if anything, are GNHQs views on this. Surely, on a forum that has created a 'non-judgemental' space in the form of the café, we should expect flaming to be kept from disrupting other people's posts?

Ilovecheese Sat 28-Oct-17 13:03:57

But Anniebach I have never seen your criticisms as a "deliberate attempt to try and provoke anger", so they don't seem to fit the definition.

Anniebach Sat 28-Oct-17 12:48:26

I am a flamer because I criticise a certain politician and for some strange reason he has been placed above criticism grin

GracesGranMK2 Sat 28-Oct-17 12:36:17

Pogs flaming is an internet term. I quoted from the definitions very early on. If you find another one then do share it but it is not something we can make up.

Flaming is a deliberate attempt to try to provoke anger - often by commenting on the person or the way they posted rather than the substance of their post - while contributing nothing to the actual topic.

That is why it doesn't happen very often. Most inappropriate comments - such as the suggestion that any poster has a personality disorder - occur because of the heat of discussion - that is not flaming.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 28-Oct-17 12:23:14

No Nellie there is nothing to forgive is there and reading your post you are certainly not asking for it are you.

Am I the only person "agitating"? You say I am doing most of it - I don't believe I am. But that infers that you accept that the half dozen other people doing exactly that when they post. If all of them are agitating then I am completely outnumbered aren't I.

Please explain why you think calling me a Rottweiler is acceptable and how anyone is supposed to react to that.

POGS Sat 28-Oct-17 12:19:07

If we must define who / what a 'flamer' is / means then all I will add is how we as individuals will view somebody to be a flamer / flaming will vary.

Assessing who is a 'flamer', what constitutes a a post that is 'flaming', in other words is subjective and to be frank not even the OP can therefore be excluded from being thought of as a 'flamer' , no more than any other poster.

Unless of course any poster is so narcissistic they believe they could not possibly be viewed as anything other than a perfect saint.

Hmmm

Nelliemoser Sat 28-Oct-17 12:07:14

GracesGranMK2 Forgive me for saying this but it appears to me that at the moment you are the person doing most of the stiring agitating.
You said...
"I apologise for being far too easily tempted into replying to the 'flamers',"!??
Well you know and the rest of the posters on this thread know it is you doing most of this so why not just stop? Give yourself a break. Talk about a rottweiler!

GracesGranMK2 Sat 28-Oct-17 12:03:42

Great - that means we can all get on with our lives - although I have to say I gave up on all your neologistics.

Elegran Sat 28-Oct-17 11:59:25

I am implying (not inferring, which is taking an inference out of a statement when hearing or reading it, not including an implication in it) that the normal method of discussion is civilised exchanges of opinions without either excessive aggression or excessive snowflakery, or gfery or lastwordery either.

With that last wordery and bit of grammar pedantry I shall leave you to add your own last wordery and get on with my life.

Anniebach Sat 28-Oct-17 11:56:30

All equal? Being equal means one poster can tell another poster 'get off this thread' some very vocal posters are noticeable by their absence on this thread , mmmmm m

GracesGranMK2 Sat 28-Oct-17 11:52:32

I have a feeling a couple of you are back to doing that. "We, our little gang, are OK people; others are outside our view of normal so we don't want them to be allowed to post what they are interested in."

What did Ann infer. Everyday threads OK. Specialist ones not equal. And yet we are all members, all equal and anyone can choose not to join a thread if they are not interested.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 28-Oct-17 11:46:48

This is normal service Elegran or are you inferring that some members are less normal that others?

Elegran Sat 28-Oct-17 11:44:34

If there is no more point in contributing then perhaps the replies will dwindle and cease, and normal service will be resumed.

Elegran Sat 28-Oct-17 11:43:03

There is sharing knowledge and there is demolishing people with the idea that THEY don't have any knowledge or insights worth sharing.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 28-Oct-17 11:42:06

This is now going so off topic that there is no point in contributing. Deliberate, accidental - who knows.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 28-Oct-17 11:41:08

You have to be joking Elegran.

Elegran Sat 28-Oct-17 11:40:34

I am not sure about the statement that people posting on this thread make for peace elsewhere - most of the posters here are those who DON'T threaten the peace of other threads.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 28-Oct-17 11:40:06

Annsixty do you not want people to share any specialist knowledge they have? I am always grateful for what I learn from here. I am sorry it upsets you.

Anniebach Sat 28-Oct-17 11:36:54

Ann, having limited intellect doesn't stop me from posting , I post less on domestic issues because I am no domestic goddess grin post Ann where you wish please x

kittylester Sat 28-Oct-17 11:04:57

It's peculiar isn't it Ann? confused

annsixty Sat 28-Oct-17 11:02:29

Oh I like that Firecracker we have some very superior beings on GN. Most of them though are very nice people with good ideas on everyday threads.
Just pontificate a little on their "specialist subject".

Jalima1108 Sat 28-Oct-17 10:59:12

Firecracker you have the right name for flaming grin Love it!

You are quite right, everyone is entitled to an opinion, to make 'an aside' if they wish and everyone is entitled to ignore it if they think it detracts from the discussion.

Firecracker123 Sat 28-Oct-17 10:16:04

I've just come across this thread and I quite like Flamers as they have been called otherwise some threads would be so boring and predictable and everyone is entitled to an opinion even if some don't agree with it. I don't like Preachers who post essays and the Superior beings who look down on you and think they are better educated than you and the Pickum to pieces followers who swoop down to do just that grin just a light hearted take on some posters usually on the political threads.

annsixty Sat 28-Oct-17 09:52:28

Hi Iam64
I was pleased to read your good news , health related, yesterday.

Iam64 Sat 28-Oct-17 09:42:19

Hello there annsixty x

annsixty Sat 28-Oct-17 09:21:19

I feel very confused and sorry for causing such a vexed response when I thought I was just posting a helpful remark.
I shall stick to threads suitable to my limited intellect and domestic issues.
I have fortunately become very thick skinned since I joined GN.