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ElderlyPerson Mon 02-Aug-21 06:40:17

Every thread has a link to report the thread to GNHQ.

Yet no link to inform GNHQ that one thinks that a thread is good.

Every post has a link to report the post to GNHQ.

Yet no link to inform GNHQ that one thinks that a post is good.

So GNHQ may well get unbalanced feedback.

ElderlyPerson Mon 02-Aug-21 10:11:21

So although the threads in French remain, no more than one in any other language. Which in my opinion would mean a far less effective way of proceeding. All because of groaning and thud!

Ellianne Mon 02-Aug-21 10:11:01

Yes, I understood you on those separate points EP. Maybe someone could have helped you out by starting the corrections thread for you, but they were your ideas in the first place.

ElderlyPerson Mon 02-Aug-21 10:08:18

The fact that no more than one thread may be started in any particular language, when the concept of more than one thread seems to be very effective, so that one can ask in English in a separate thread without disrupting the conversation being all in another language. Also the separate thread for the niche activity of trying to write a story in the past historic tense seemed a good way to do it.

Ellianne Mon 02-Aug-21 10:04:51

What exactly did GNHQ say?

BlueBelle Mon 02-Aug-21 09:59:43

I now don’t understand at all I was annoyed for you if someone had reported and they had been deleted by HQ but they haven’t been deleted so what s wrong EP ? What is the problem ?
What did your email from HQ ? say how do you know they were reported ?
We don’t get any ideas of whether a thread is good bad or ugly only by the footfall Mine usually die a death after a page ??
I no longer understand what this is about ?

Flexagon Mon 02-Aug-21 09:56:34

So I am just having a moan about it as the GNHQ ruling only took in one set of views.

What ruling? What have they ruled?

For what it's worth, I think you started too many similar threads in a short space of time. I do recall that after the fourth or fifth someone posted 'Give it a rest" or words to that effect so maybe they were the complainant.

I'd be happy to participate in just the one active thread where people can have a daily chat mainly in French with some English and that it be open to people of all abilities.

If the purpose is to practise and improve, I'd prefer there to be one central topic for a limited time and maybe respectfully request that the use of Google Translate be limited and/or the length of post be limited so as not to overwhelm those less proficient. Is that too prescriptive?

What do you think EP? How would you as the initiator and others as participants like this to go?

Ellianne Mon 02-Aug-21 09:56:21

Someone was miffed about something for sure. Totally bizarre.

FannyCornforth Mon 02-Aug-21 09:55:00

There was a poster being very rude to you on a couple of your threads, EP, do you remember?

Ellianne Mon 02-Aug-21 09:54:42

I feel sure GNHQ wouldn't have taken the time to dissect each of the 4 or so threads, so how would they know that one was about a grammar, one about corrections of mistakes and explanations, one about daily life etc. They are all different, so couldn't really be lumped into one.

Chewbacca Mon 02-Aug-21 09:50:04

Seems a bit odd; Harry and Meghan threads, Boris and his peccadilloes and the endless political carping threads are frequently duplicated and continue nevertheless. But GNHQ must have felt that the complaint was justified or they wouldn't have reacted I suppose. Personally, if a thread doesn't appeal to me, I just move on but someone must have felt sufficiently irked to hit the report button. Seems strange though....

MawBe Mon 02-Aug-21 09:46:16

There is ample opportunity for people to express satisfaction with a thread in their posts on that thread.
But the ultimate proof of any pudding is in the eating! Those which are popular thrive , others disappear because of lack of interest, posters voting with their feet.
No interest? No posts.

Peasblossom Mon 02-Aug-21 09:43:55

Actually when someone’s got a bee in their bonnet and puts up multiple threads on the same thing, I do get bored with it. Being too lazy to do anything except look at Active

It’s a bit like monopolising the conversation, isn’t it?

ElderlyPerson Mon 02-Aug-21 09:43:16

Ellianne

The complaint can't have been that there are too many French threads. Just look at the number of repetitive games threads, Boris threads or Harry and Meghan threads.
It has to be something to do with the fact they are in French.

In am pointing out in this thread that some people have used the thread report facility to complain about the threads yet there is no equally obvious opportunity for people to send feedback expressing an opposite viewpoint.

Peasblossom Mon 02-Aug-21 09:40:57

People always complain about too many threads on the same theme clogging up the Active box. Politics, royals, games etc.

I don’t think it’s particularly significant. If lots of people were interested the threads would keep going, but they haven’t.

ElderlyPerson Mon 02-Aug-21 09:38:07

FannyCornforth

What did the email actually say EP?

I have always been someone who likes to observe netiquette but basically that one thread is alright, but multiples are not.

But the multiple threads seemed very effective to me.

Blossoming Mon 02-Aug-21 09:35:00

So you’re unhappy because some people didn’t like some of your threads and Gransnet let you know, but your threads are still there? I really don’t get your problem. Gransnetters like different stuff, some don’t like your threads. Tough.

ElderlyPerson Mon 02-Aug-21 09:32:42

Galaxy

Are you complaining because they have not stayed in active. That's not how this works.

No.

I am having a moan because some people complained about their existence.

MawBe Mon 02-Aug-21 09:31:49

Threads will remain “Active” as long as there is some interest and involvement.
When they drop off the bottom or disappear it is usually because of lack of interest, but they remain accessible by looking in the relevant forum and can simply be reactivated by posting .

FannyCornforth Mon 02-Aug-21 09:31:24

What did the email actually say EP?

Peasblossom Mon 02-Aug-21 09:30:13

Whatever. GNHQ didn’t take any action, so I don’t quite know what the problem is?

ElderlyPerson Mon 02-Aug-21 09:29:46

Ellianne

That is preposterous if GN thought the threads were cliquey.
I started the German one for a bit of fun - for example, discussing our favourite towns. Um Gottes Willen what is wrong with that sort of chat?
Someone is either incensed because they can't understand the language, or jealous that they didn't think of the idea first and that EP got a new ball rolling.
Anyone for a few threads in Chinese?

Actually I would welcome some threads in Chinese.

I once had a tree that grew from a seed from a tree that was in China.

It was over thirty years ago.

The Royal Horticultural Society had an annual seed distribution and we got some seeds of Pinus Taiwanensis.

There were just a few seeds and one germinated.

When visiting the Wisley garden we asked about the seeds, thinking that perhaps the tree from which the seed came might be there, and a lady looked it up in the records, and found that the seed had come from a tree in a botanic garden in China.

Chinese characters are fascinating. Many have two parts, sort of like genus and species.

Ellianne Mon 02-Aug-21 09:28:36

The complaint can't have been that there are too many French threads. Just look at the number of repetitive games threads, Boris threads or Harry and Meghan threads.
It has to be something to do with the fact they are in French.

Galaxy Mon 02-Aug-21 09:22:59

Are you complaining because they have not stayed in active. That's not how this works.

Galaxy Mon 02-Aug-21 09:21:41

The threads havent been deleted.

ElderlyPerson Mon 02-Aug-21 09:21:04

The five French threads have not been deleted.

One, the original café thread, is still very active.

The garden thread is inactive at present. It could revive if needed.

The story in the past historic tense is inactive, but that is because the story progresses by various people writing one or a few sentences and then leaving it for someone else to contribute. Three people have contributed thus far, and the total story so far has elements of the contribution of each of the three people making up the whole. It is delightful and fascinating. I posted the most recent contribution to the story itself. Maybe the story parts can all be collected together and typeset in a font typical of the 18th century style.

There is a garden for the story, to discuss it and the associated grammar and vocabulary in English. I am hoping to add a question to that thread today.

There is also the patio, that is, not inside all in French, nor in the open garden all in English. The patio is specifically for beginners. So some French, some English. The patio is there for people new to French and for volunteer teachers who have actually taught French. I am in neither of those sets. I did French up to 'O' level, got a pass at grade 5 where 1 was top grade and 6 the basic pass grade, then I studied mathematics and physics for A level and beyond, and French had 'gone'.