Please GNHQ ... would you consider letting *EllanVannin* come back to this site?

I would like to add my name to the list of posters to get EV reinstated.

As others have said a lovely lady and the backbone of her family.During lockdown EV was very rarely able to see her family.To ban an 81 year old lady at such a time seems cruel.

I always enjoyed her posts and found her to be a lovely ,caring and supportive me,bed of the good morning thread.

What a lovely gesture of goodwill it would be to reinstate her.

What on earth did EV do or say to be banned for life !!
Other people who have had this draconian treatment are back posting so why not her ?
I too will add my name to the growing list
HQ do please listen to those that keep your site going

Maudi

I agree it's ridiculous a lifetime ban, even in real life murderers get parole. I didn't really know EllannVannin but l support her reinstatement.

I agree, Maudi and I support her reinstatement. It's cruel during a pandemic to take away someone's lifeline.

I would also like to add my name. Though I suspect we disagree with many (most) things political, I think the punishment is too hard on an 82 year old woman who is probably not au fait with contemporary political correctness (if that was got her booted off). I strongly disagree with many of our forthright posters, but none of us here are delicate and those that are, can retreat to gentler threads if necessary. I hate the thought of an elderly woman being robbed of a social outlet during a pandemic.

Add my name please, I would like to see her return

I can remember seeing posts from Ellan Vannin on the Good Morning thread. Always cheerful and made me go out in search of crumpets. I really thought that she’d been taken ill and couldn’t post anymore until I started reading about her ban. The last year or two have been extremely hard for most of us, let alone being banned from a site that is a lifeline for isolated people. I would very much like to see her back again.

I fully support this request. For some people such as Ellan GN is their only human companion, their only connection to the outside world.

Please add my name as another who would love to see EV back amongst us.

I am another who is shocked to hear that she has been banned and particularly at a time when we are all suffering more isolation than usual.

It's important to remember the extraordinary circumstances we are now in, which were not the case when the GN 'rules' were set up.
A ban from GN to someone who is elderly and living alone is a much more draconian action these days than it probably seemed in the past.

I often disagreed with EV's opinions, as I do with others, but I would never report them or want any of those people to be banned.

Please reinstate EllanVannin and rethink the GN policy of lifetime banning.

I agree it's ridiculous a lifetime ban, even in real life murderers get parole. I didn't really know EllannVannin but l support her reinstatement.

Please let her back. I have no idea what she did and don’t really care what it was. She was an interesting and special lady. Please reconsider ?

LauraNorderr has put the case perfectly. I agree with every word of her post.
I have been a member for a few years but don’t post often but read regularly. I feel I have to venture out of my comfort zone and add to this thread.
EllanVannin lives not far from me and I loved to read her posts.
Always honest and straightforward and full of humour.
I really admired her courage and lack of self pity, managing alone throughout this pandemic but expecting very little of others.
It’s awful to think she has had this means of communication with others taken away at this time.

What lovely supportive posts for a lady I am too new to know. I think the main reason for banning someone would surely be unacceptable or hurtful comments to other posters. It does not sound as though this lady did either of these things.

I absolutely endorse what everyone else is saying here. I didn't always agree with EllanVannin but I can't imagine she ever set out to be deliberately offensive to anyone on the forums. If she inadvertently said something hurtful, perhaps she should be readmitted so she can apologise?

I, for one, miss her feisty good sense and warmth and am increasingly depressed at the widespread contemporary practice of no-platforming anybody with a minority and/or outspoken view. This is GN, not the LSE. Aren't we all grown ups here? Please reinstate her!

Another one here!

I think draconian measures such as lifetime bans for unknown reasons should normally have no place on what is supposed to be a supportive site like Gransnet.
Of course, if someone was a t***l or being constantly abusive towards other posters then a ban could be the right thing, after warnings.

However, I have no clue what EllanVannin was alleged to have done as she always seemed perfectly pleasant.
Perhaps she wasn't always politically correct?
Perhaps, in banning an 81 year old, popular poster, GNHQ is being ageist? Non pc?

I too would love to see EV back with us.
I used to enjoy reading her posts every morning ..... almost as
much as she enjoyed her crumpets.
A lifetime ban seems very harsh.
Please reconsider HQ.

Couldn’t agree more Doodledog.

Unless there have been 'behind the scenes' shenanigans (which in this case I doubt), or illegal activity, I can see no need for bans. We are not children who need to be cosseted, and if people find a poster irritating they can ignore them or take them to task on the thread. Maybe an 'ignore poster' button would be more useful than the 'report' one? Or at least a culture in which adults spoke out if they disagreed with one another instead of reporting and getting moderators to fight their battles, leaving reporting for serious breaches of the rules or the law.

If you are still reading, EV, I hope you have a lovely Christmas and wish you all the best for 2022.

I definitely would like her to come back, possibly she was forthright at times, clearly her heart was in the right place. I think it's fair to to say she was one of GN's older members. That old adage about the past being a foreign country where things were possibly done differently springs to mind, insomuch as there was a directness about her, a bit like the much lamented late Jing. More importantly I believe she was on her own, as many posters are, and I have often heard some express GN is a lifeline and comfort, so for that reason alone please consider reinstating her. Many of her contributions were interesting particularly her observations about the NHS, given I believe she had a long career in nursing over 50 or so years ago.

I'm another who would be very happy to see EV back among us. Most here probably don't know my name, but I have been a regular reader and very occasional poster for several years.

I did write to you, GNHQ, back in September asking if she could be reinstated after another poster was allowed to return, but received a very bland reply.

Please reconsider your decision.

Please re-consider?
This site, and EV, has much to offer in the way of support to those who seek advice, friendship, a need for 'belonging'.

I would love to see her reinstated. Is there anybody at GNHQ that she could contact, to try and reach some agreement? I didn’t always agree with her views, but I saw nothing objectionable about what she posted. Healthy and open debate should be a given on a forum like this.

I know nothing of the issues which caused the ban but having read many of her comments I cannot imagine her saying anything worthy of a complete ban. Sounds like an OTT reaction from GNHQ.

Oh yes please, add my name to this plea.
Ellan Vannin is such a wonderful strong character that many of us have missed.
She, like many, is the backbone of a family with many worries and yet, in spite of her personal troubles, has always been a sincere and generous carer of others on Gransnet. Every morning tales of her crumpets, her cats, her chat with the odd neighbour and her longing to see her granddaughter Ruby have brightened our lives.
I am another who is shocked to hear that she has been banned and particularly at a time when we are all suffering more isolation than usual.
I am aware that EV can be outspoken and occasionally a little outrageous on the politics threads but gosh, we’re all grown up and can deal with that, those threads are full of feisty folk who can easily fight their corner if they feel offended.
I don’t ever remember her being mean or snarky or trying to belittle another poster, nothing was ever personal with EV. She is a woman of her time, strong, stoic, witty, interesting and we’d like her back please.
That would be a lovely Christmas present to all of us thank you GNHQ.

I would support Ellen and her return too.
I never read anything from her that would have deserved a ban.Forthright, and nothing wrong with that.