To separate News from Politics

Tbh I thought the gransnet cafe was introduced for happy chappy chat.

Nah, I do a lot of real life ranting.

It can be quite pleasant just to be chatty and have a laugh too about what’s in the newspapers without enduring severe put downs!

Have a laugh about what's in the papers, chuckle away. But if its something that has a serious side, don't complain if you are told about it.

What about this? Is this funny? It made me laugh. To begin with.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-59592355

Alegrias1

So you just want a fluffy isn't that good/sweet/awful/funny/terrible forum?

Hmm. I take your point Alegrias but I prefer to think of it becoming more like a conversation about newsworthy topics as happens amongst friends in real life! Opinions listened to politely. As you would when sat round a table with people. I’m sure we’ve all done it. And perhaps bitten our tongue in company rather than get het up and rant at the table.

It can be quite pleasant just to be chatty and have a laugh too about what’s in the newspapers without enduring severe put downs!

Time will tell whether or not it’s popular. If it’s not, I’m sure GNHQ will reconsider.

Wouldn't it be simpler to designate Chat as where people go if they want to post pollyanna, nicey nicey posts where they expect only agreement and no widening of the subject?

Even as I say this, I think it's a nonsense but it's also a nonsense to pretend that news is separate from politics. Why do we have newspapers defined and self defined as left and right wing which is a result of who they're owned by and who buys them.

I can't believe that GNHQ think this is anything other than a hornet's nest as demonstrated by the direction of this very thread. Social media creates debate, that's why groups on, for instance, Facebook have rules and moderators and closed groups where debate can be tightly controlled. This is an open forum.

Galaxy

What do you mean posters would be free to ignore political posts, they have that freedom now. You can ignore any post you dont like or report it if it breaks guidelines.

Sometimes though Galaxy the political threads can be a bear garden. Depending upon the subject matter they are not for the faint hearted. And yet some people might like to post on what they’ve seen or heard about in the news in a more generalised way without being verbally attacked!

I think News could still be interesting just a little gentler perhaps, thereby encouraging more posters to join in hopefully? N&P are presently pretty much the same cabal of posters (not denigrating anybody as I include myself in that description!).

So you just want a fluffy isn't that good/sweet/awful/funny/terrible forum?

Lucca

I’m at the point now of being immature actually and saying “Whatever “

Now that did make me laugh thank you Lucca! ?

Actually a further thought.
It would not difficult to post some NEWS and then if someone thought, ‘no hang on this is all because of ‘ .....’ and his/her government decisions’ could then start a thread on POLITICS about the deeper ramifications of said NEWS and all who might be interested in explaining/pontificating/asking for verification links/deeper understanding etc could slide across to join in. Me included if I were interested.
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What do you mean posters would be free to ignore political posts, they have that freedom now. You can ignore any post you dont like or report it if it breaks guidelines.

I think your posts are very personal lemongrove.

Honestly I don’t see the problem.

I think it’s brilliant.

All those moaning on about politicisation of an issue will be gone.

All snowflakes who hate to be challenged - gone.

I and others will be gone from the happy chappy threads.

Such a good idea.

. Why (on average I’d say) are those of a “right” persuasion all for this and those considered”left” not ?

I’m at the point now of being immature actually and saying “Whatever “

Anyone who thinks it applies to them can take that personally.

Galaxy the immature and personal nature that posts are taking on this thread by those against separating news and politics thread isn’t surprising but is disappointing.
There are quite a few posters btw who castigate others for taking a subject off course ( be it jumpers or anything else) already.

Josianne

Well as I have experience of being Head Girl (!!) and more, I would acknowledge your comment on gun laws as being something which didn't cross my mind, but which I might want to return to later. To start berating you for it is not something I would do as of course the comment is pertinent.

What about if I said that the gun laws were completely inadequate and the government should do something about it? The government of the day is the Monster Raving Looney Party and you will not countenance any criticism of them whatsoever. Will you berate me then?

(I don't expect you would, but some will...)

Good point Galaxy. All too often the main subject of a thread is deviated from with all sorts of postings that are nothing to do with the thread. Trying to get back on track often proves impossible.

Gun laws could be talked about and were at the time, and still could be where the subject matter was about guns ( which that was) you are reading too much into this Alegrias

Posters would be free to ignore overtly political posts on a news thread if they wanted to and if somebody was determined to make a point on there by politicising a news item I think they would soon tire of it.

Yes. Totally agree. Please.

Thanks for telling what I will be allowed to say on a thread lemongrove. There was a political thread the other day and a number if posters were discussing the jumper someone was wearing, I cant even remember what the thread was about, I think it was to do with Johnson and the parties but I may be wrong. I assume in the future I can ask those people to leave the thread as they are not on subject.

Well as I have experience of being Head Girl (!!) and more, I would acknowledge your comment on gun laws as being something which didn't cross my mind, but which I might want to return to later. To start berating you for it is not something I would do as of course the comment is pertinent.

So what will happen Josianne, if someone posts something on a news thread that somebody decides is "politics"?

If there had been a discussion about Dunblane and I popped in and said "I think they need to change the gun laws", who is going to tell me my post is out of place and only expressions of sadness are allowed?

Unless some people decide that they are the (informal) arbiters of what can and can't be posted.

Whole thing's unworkable.

This isn’t a new suggestion, there have been many calls for news and politics to be separated before now over the years.
Now there are calls again for it and GNHQ are listening, but I for one am quite happy to accept whatever they decide on this.

Alegrias1

Oh, I think we could make some suggestions for those positions Lucca.

OK fire away. Or shall I start?
Personally I can't think of anything worse!

Oh, I think we could make some suggestions for those positions Lucca.

Will there be a head girl and prefects to monitor it ?