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What's wrong with posting about 1st World problems

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Vintagejazz Thu 14-Apr-22 09:49:17

I hope this doesn't count as a thread about a thread, because it's something I've seen on lots of threads recently.
But why do people think it's OK to come on and admonish people for posting about something relatively trivial 'because there's a war in Ukraine/the cost of living has shot up/we've been through two weeks of Covid.

Yes all of those things are serious issues with devastating consequences for some people.

But surely we're also allowed have a moan about some of the everyday annoyances of life?

Also the rude 'have you nothing else to worry about OP'? I am sure, like me, posters often come on here when they're emotionally drained and just want a bit of distraction and normality. Just because you feel like discussing one thing, doesn't mean you don't also have much bigger things on your mind.

BigBertha1 Fri 15-Apr-22 06:57:24

I agree with you vintagejazz

Allsorts Fri 15-Apr-22 06:48:26

Vintage jazz I don’t think it’s anything personal but a lot of people are at rock bottom from the effects of Covid, whether it’s health, loss or effects of solitude, then to see a war being played out every day on good people. I’ve had to stop looking, but it’s there on my mind. The brutality of the Russian government and how they must have trained their men. The cost of living and energy prices, makes other considerations trivial. That’s no excuse for shooting someone down.

Joseanne Fri 15-Apr-22 06:41:53

I find that interesting too.
I know it is a different thing but I remember something about a "third state" in France after the revolution. Basically it was the common people as opposed to the aristocracy and the clergy who were first and second.

FannyCornforth Fri 15-Apr-22 05:00:36

Really interesting stuff about the Second World!
And thank you for your nice comment Jazz

JackyB Fri 15-Apr-22 00:22:59

That's interesting about "The second world". I always thought it was a misinterpretation. In French they talk of Le Tiers Monde" i.e. the third world in the sense of "a third of the world" and not "Le troisième Monde" (the ordinal number).

The German, however, is "Dritte Welt" (ordinal number again, as in English"). The fraction is "Drittel".

It never occurred to me that there ever was a "second" world.

Casdon Thu 14-Apr-22 22:06:15

I think the ‘second world’ was the all communist countries wasn’t it Riverwalk, so China, Cuba also?

Callistemon21 Thu 14-Apr-22 21:29:38

I suppose there are what are termed 'First World Problems' eg can't get your usual brand of cornflakes, the washing machine has broken down and can't get an engineer, how can I get rid of slugs demolishing my plants etc.
In comparison to world crises they may seem of little consequence but important at the time.

They may have been of importance to Ukrainian people too before a madman wrecked their lives.

Other first world problems posted on here may seem really frivolous but, if they cause anxiety due to underlying reasons, they are important to those posting or to their families.

Vintagejazz Thu 14-Apr-22 20:34:50

Thank you Riverwalk.

AreWeThereYet Thu 14-Apr-22 20:32:22

Riverwalk Thank you for that.

I don't remember ever hearing anyone using the term 2nd world.

Riverwalk Thu 14-Apr-22 20:26:32

The Second World, the Soviet Bloc, disintegrated around 1989.

Vintagejazz Thu 14-Apr-22 20:01:06

Gosh yes. The 2nd world. I've no idea blush

AreWeThereYet Thu 14-Apr-22 19:21:47

I suspect most of us on here live in the 1st world. Therefore our problems are likely to be 1st world problems. We can only live our own lives, no matter how much we may want to help with the lives of others.

Does anyone know - what happened to the 2nd world??

Vintagejazz Thu 14-Apr-22 19:15:46

FannyCornforth

Of course we can have a ‘light hearted chat’!
No one is stopping us!

If someone has a pop at you, and you think that they are out of order for doing so, do one of the following:

A) tell them so

or

B) ignore them

There is no need to get upset about it; or start a thread about it.

Just think to yourself that they are a bit of a clown and move on! smile

I totally agree. We should be able to confront posters who are unpleasant or duplicitous.Unfortunately it's like advice to confront anti social neighbours. You don't know what you'll get.

Some will respond with politeness and respect. Some will go nuclear and become even more aggressive and nasty.

It's a shame really.

You're such a lovely poster Fanny. But not everyone is as kind and uncomplicated as you.

wildswan16 Thu 14-Apr-22 18:42:21

I wasn't around during WW2 but I remember seeing film clips of all those still "at home" having wonderful sing-songs and dances. During Covid people were horrified by seeing nurses and paramedics having a bit of a laugh and fun with each other despite working in terrible circumstances for 24 hours at a stretch.

We all need to switch off at times, it does us a power of good, and I for one, enjoy the "daft" threads that crop up.

aonk Thu 14-Apr-22 17:46:04

Of course we should be aware of what’s going on elsewhere in the world and the hard times being experienced by so many in our own country. Nevertheless we should be grateful for what we have which would be envied by so many others. If we take pleasure in more frivolous things from time to time we’re helping our mental health and keeping as cheerful as we can for the sake of others. It’s often the little things in life which keep us going. We should enjoy what we have while we have it. Those who are currently suffering wouldn’t want it any other way.

Vintagejazz Thu 14-Apr-22 17:20:35

I never knew Phoenix. She was already very ill when I saw other posters talking about her. But she sounds like she embodied all that was best about Gransnet.

GrannyLaine Thu 14-Apr-22 15:31:31

I don't know why but reading this thread brought the late Phoenix to mind. How I miss her posts! She could take the most banal of topics and turn them into pure comedy.

Antonia Thu 14-Apr-22 15:02:21

We all need a bit of light relief from the world's problems. We can't do anything about them, apart from futile gestures such as recycling our yoghurt pots, so there's no point in fixating on them.

(I'm sure someone will be along to tell me that 'if we all do our bit' etc etc, but even if we did, which isn't very probable, it still wouldn't make much difference).

Our own worries are different and they affect us personally, so we want to share with people who understand because they've had similar experiences.

Callistemon21 Thu 14-Apr-22 14:35:17

H1954

There was a thread recently about a missing sock, it had escaped the laundry basket and most comments were of the same nature, very lighthearted and sharing similar experiences..............until someone made a comment about The Ukraine claiming OP and anyone who commented should be ashamed about the topic matter! Really? We are all acutely aware of the suffering of those poor people but why can we not have a lighthearted chat occasionally?

I missed the missing sock.
Once upon a time when the DC were home there was a bag of single socks in the airing cupboard seeking mates. Some were lovely, brightly coloured ski socks but still they stayed single.
DD decided she'd wear one of each colour so that solved a problem.

Years later the single socks went in the ragbag. sad

Vintagejazz Thu 14-Apr-22 14:02:14

Granny23

I am not sure if this comment fits comfortably into this thread but it illustrates the point to me.

My DD's and teenage DGC were having a conversation about things that for better or worse have changed because of the Pandemic. Having agreed that there has been a vast increase in community spirit and people looking out for each other, but were struggling to think of anything else that was positive. I came up with a very trivial 'benefit' - That the pandemic has brought an end to one of my pet hates i.e random acquaintances launching at me with a kiss on both cheeks. The pandemic has put a complete stop to this unwelcome practice, which pleases me no end. We were all agreed on this point and it brought the conversation to an end on a positive note.

Yes hopefully that will come to an end.

Thanks for all the comments on here
Glad to know I'm not the only poster who finds this annoying and insensitive.

Kate1949 Thu 14-Apr-22 13:54:00

Fanny Your post brought a lump to my throat. So are you both of those things.

Serendipity22 Thu 14-Apr-22 13:53:51

Ohhh haha Granny23 this made me chuckle because I am 1 of those you would be jumping for joy never to experience hahaha, the reason I say that is because when we were in the depths of the unknown with the pandemic ( I know we still are, but I mean avoiding people like the plague ) .... I said to anyone that would listen "When this is all over I am going to randomly hug and kiss everyone and anyone I see."

Hahaha and I am not a BIG hugger and certainly not a person to plonk a kiss on someone's cheek, no way hosay.

FannyCornforth Thu 14-Apr-22 13:45:50

A poster called Beswitched started a near identical thread to this a few weeks ago.

Look. I don’t think that there is a poster on here who doesn’t agree that it’s okay, even wonderful, to discuss trivialities.

And if someone does gripe at you on a thread, or seem unnecessarily critical; it’s probably because they are having a rough day themselves, and are in need of a bit of slack to be cut themselves.

Granny23 Thu 14-Apr-22 13:43:24

I am not sure if this comment fits comfortably into this thread but it illustrates the point to me.

My DD's and teenage DGC were having a conversation about things that for better or worse have changed because of the Pandemic. Having agreed that there has been a vast increase in community spirit and people looking out for each other, but were struggling to think of anything else that was positive. I came up with a very trivial 'benefit' - That the pandemic has brought an end to one of my pet hates i.e random acquaintances launching at me with a kiss on both cheeks. The pandemic has put a complete stop to this unwelcome practice, which pleases me no end. We were all agreed on this point and it brought the conversation to an end on a positive note.

Blossoming Thu 14-Apr-22 13:37:17

FannyCornforth

Blossoming

I agree Baggs. In fact I’ve just scrolled past one in this very thread grin

It better not have been one of mine, young Blossoming! angry

Off course not dear FannyCornforth, I wouldn’t dare grin