Bridie22
If this law is international, how come some countries have stopped people entering their countries? Ie Australia
Poland for one don’t want them, & go to great lengths to keep them out.
This is not a thread to discuss whether they should be here or not, or how they got here, this has been covered several times before. What puzzles me is where they are taken. Some weeks the best part of a thousand arrive, either on inflatables or having been picked up by our border control boats. Where on earth do they go? What an absolute nightmare for the people in charge of finding them accommodation. I can find no information on line. Does anyone know? I am just curious of the logistics of finding endless bed and board for so many.
Bridie22
If this law is international, how come some countries have stopped people entering their countries? Ie Australia
Poland for one don’t want them, & go to great lengths to keep them out.
It was my understanding that there placements were managed by serco and they were transported to various immigration centres across the country before being placed in further housing after assessment. Some of this housing will be in empty home office buildings
Their not there
Haven’t woken up yet!
Mt61
Bridie22
If this law is international, how come some countries have stopped people entering their countries? Ie Australia
Poland for one don’t want them, & go to great lengths to keep them out.
I've never really understood the cherry picking nature within the EU, in its lack of uniformity pertaining to immigration, so much so, that certain countries buckle under the weight of what they are expected to deal with and then those such as Poland and Hungary just don't play any part at all. Italy and Greece both buckling under the weight of asylum seeker migration for some considerable time have sought unilateral solutions, Italy in their arrangement with Albania and more lately Greece pushed to the wall simply locking them up. Surely the countries in Eastern Europe should have been made to step up and take some of these people, they've proved themselves to be a dead loss in this respect.
Aveline
That's just the ones that are picked up officially. I have seen videos of these rubber boats landing on beaches and black lads just running for it into suburban streets. God knows where they go from there. I feel very sorry for people living in these south coast towns.
I live in Dover. When I walk up the town, I am lucky if I hear one British voice. I find it quite frightening, partly because they just walk through you - they never move across, just barge on. I hate it! Whatever I feel about their needs, motives etc., (this isn’t the place to discuss those) I hate the fact they are invading my town and impacting on my life.
Greece have had a huge problem for many years. I remember my mum & dad, whilst on holiday there, saying that the locals were at their wits end, local shops & restaurants every morning had human excrement & urine to clean up from their shop doorways.
Migrants would be coming up to the restaurant windows, whilst holiday makers were trying to enjoy a meal.
The railings on the front were used as makeshift washing lines. Dirty nappies just left on the floor (must have been families back in the day). They have had enough. You can’t blame them!
Aveline
How can their claims ever be processed if they have no documents?
Young male economic migrants should just be turned round and sent back to where they came from.
Absolutely Aveline. Surely they should hang on to any bit of evidence they have to prove who they are and where they are from plus evidence of qualifications. This makes me think they have things to hide and are just unqualified young men jumping on the bandwagon.
To be honest they should not even be allowed to set foot on British soil. Germany, Bulgaria, Greece and other countries don’t want them any more so why should we?
100% agree that the people who came here years ago LEGALLY from the West Indies and Uganda were a completely different matter.
I looked at all the Mums peacefully protesting in pink yesterday saying they are not far right, they are just scared Mums and I wondered how we have come to this.
I was in Nottingham a few months ago and it was like being in Somalia or somewhere. Crowds of young men hanging around outside shops blocking the pavements, spitting on the ground, smoking and being very loud. Everybody was giving them a wide berth.
Germany have announced a crackdown and in the last six months arrivals have reduced considerably by half. If they can do it why can’t we?
Could it be because Starmers right hand man, McSweeney, his father has made a huge profit housing these so called asylum seekers? Millions made.
All online to read for the usual doubters.
woodenspoon
Germany have announced a crackdown and in the last six months arrivals have reduced considerably by half. If they can do it why can’t we?
Could it be because Starmers right hand man, McSweeney, his father has made a huge profit housing these so called asylum seekers? Millions made.
All online to read for the usual doubters.
Ahh yes just listened to all that this morning. They sound like a cash cow to me.
Totally agree Terribull, Denmark have said no more also, countries that more larger than ours need to step up, and maybe the answers lie in the countries these migrants are leaving?
Like lots of people I have no solution to this massive problem, I'm sure if I was in their position and saw a chance of an easier life I would take it.
Mt61
"Angela Rayner wants every town to take their share of these people."
It's all very well her saying that? would she like them moving next door to her? It's always do as I say not do as I do isn't it?
We've already got 'our share' here in our seaside town, our young girls are already complaining about these young men following them and trying to chat them upon the beach and in the parks.
And there's the rub, they're all young men, many coming from countries where women are expected to do as they're told. Why should we feel intimidated in our own country, or maybe it just isn't our own country anymore
My sisters best friend years ago, fled Uganda in the 70s. They were quite well off, had a large house with servants.
They were being murdered by the thousands.
They were absolutely genuine refugees.
sassenach512
Mt61
"Angela Rayner wants every town to take their share of these people."
It's all very well her saying that? would she like them moving next door to her? It's always do as I say not do as I do isn't it?
We've already got 'our share' here in our seaside town, our young girls are already complaining about these young men following them and trying to chat them upon the beach and in the parks.
And there's the rub, they're all young men, many coming from countries where women are expected to do as they're told. Why should we feel intimidated in our own country, or maybe it just isn't our own country anymore
My previous boss, church going, use to say to me twenty years ago, ‘is it really a bad world’, or ‘ isn’t it everyone’s world’ he moved his family to a lovely little village up in Yorkshire. last I spoke to him, he’s now grumbling, because they are seeing those people up that way, I just answered, “isn’t it everyone’s world”?
Some people are racist
I'd change 'some' to 'lots of' tbh - it's depressing
welbeck
Some people are racist
I don’t think it’s racist to want people to come here through the proper channels.
Also agree that destroying their paperwork is a no no.
Cannot imagine you would be allowed to rock up in Australia, say, without passport or correct identification.
No wonder Reform is gaining popularity. Not that they would have a workable solution, but neither do any of the other parties.
Lots of talk, not much action, and no results to speak of.
Mt61
My sisters best friend years ago, fled Uganda in the 70s. They were quite well off, had a large house with servants.
They were being murdered by the thousands.
They were absolutely genuine refugees.
Most of the Ugandan Asians were well educated and well off.
They came here legally when Idi Amin threw them out. They had British passports so were entitled to come.
They have been an absolute credit to this country and have worked incredibly hard to build up hugely successful businesses.
I worked very closely with them when they arrived in Leicester with just a suitcase and about £15. I went into schools, I helped them to find jobs and I visited their homes.
Please remember that if you vote for Reform because of migrants you will then be subjected to their other policies ( whatever they are
). And that a party that can treat other people in a way that some of us feel to be wrong will quite happily treat their own in that way, too. I was speaking to someone yesterday who is far more knowledgeable politically than I am and he told me that Reform are being backed financially by people involved in offshore banking and climate change deniers. We all acknowledge that there is a problem but please don’t just do a protest vote into the unknown.
Racist is a word that’s thrown in to shut down debate especially when they have no legitimate answer to concerns raised.
The news today bears out the folly of allowing men into this country from countries with ways and beliefs not compatible with ours. They have no structure to their days, get into trouble, commit crime, nobody knows who they are or where they really come from and what their real purpose is.
How could an ordinary person have legitimate answers to this complex and worrying issue please? It is possible to be very concerned and have a shred of compassion. The two are not mutually exclusive.
People seeking asylum have no structure because they are prevented from working, in some cases even volunteering.
Are all the men trouble and criminals because correct me if I'm wrong that's what you seem to be saying?
Absolutely 💯 hard working
Mt61
Absolutely 💯 hard working
Primrose53
StripeyGran
How could an ordinary person have legitimate answers to this complex and worrying issue please? It is possible to be very concerned and have a shred of compassion. The two are not mutually exclusive.
People seeking asylum have no structure because they are prevented from working, in some cases even volunteering.
Are all the men trouble and criminals because correct me if I'm wrong that's what you seem to be saying?
FGS!!!! Prevented from working? they are here ILLEGALLY!!!
Name me a country in the world who allow people to do that!
MayBee70
Please remember that if you vote for Reform because of migrants you will then be subjected to their other policies ( whatever they are
). And that a party that can treat other people in a way that some of us feel to be wrong will quite happily treat their own in that way, too. I was speaking to someone yesterday who is far more knowledgeable politically than I am and he told me that Reform are being backed financially by people involved in offshore banking and climate change deniers. We all acknowledge that there is a problem but please don’t just do a protest vote into the unknown.
I never bothered to vote this time. Tbh, I wouldn’t know who to vote for, certainly not labour, that’s for sure maybee70
Mt61
Mt61
Absolutely 💯 hard working
Primrose53
Completely different to the shirking free loaders coming on boats!
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