Where are the immigrants taken when they arrive in the uk?

A valid question Bazza and one which most people have been puzzled about.

Oreo

A valid question Bazza and one which most people have been puzzled about.

Yes, a very valid question
Take no notice of those who jump on you, you are perfectly entitled to share what you want many of us agree with you..

We live in Folkestone, one morning we were walking along the pathway above the beach, we noticed a lot of people looking out to see. We joined them and watched a dinghy approach the shore, about 12 men got out, had a look around and casually dispersed in different direction ( all on their phones). I knew it was a regular thing in the area yet I was still shocked.

Aveline

That's just the ones that are picked up officially. I have seen videos of these rubber boats landing on beaches and black lads just running for it into suburban streets. God knows where they go from there. I feel very sorry for people living in these south coast towns.

I have not seen any videos, but I have wondered about people coming in various other points along that coastline, obviously not in such great numbers but coming all the same and then just vanishing,
We don’t know who they are. we don’t know what their intentions are and they are not all fleeing persecution
It’s a ticking time bomb and things are going to get rough,we are the laughing stock of the world while our own people suffer..
I wonder what the young men who died during the two world wars would think now if they look down upon this once great country, I think they would have their heads in their hands weeping..😢

A lot of people here are swallowing the right wing media. It is not a piece of cake waiting to get leave to stay- refugee status. They cannot work even voluntarily. Very limited resources. If lucky they live near a city with access to charities who can help with family reunification and house and job hunting once they have leave.
I worked with those waiting.
They were largely very appreciative and if they trusted you told you their stories. Murdered police brothers, smashed kneecaps for being in opposition, gay …

I can see all viewpoints but I am saddened that the venom is directed at the asylum seekers in the hotels and not against the system. I volunteer for a charity that supports all the needy in our county including the asylum seekers at our local Best Western hotel. The problems arise because it takes more than two years for their applications to be processed and meanwhile they have nothing to do. A friend volunteers for a group that gives them English lessons and our charity arranges football sessions to give them something to occupy their time. I know some of you will feel this is a bit over the top but it is at least a small attempt to deal with the problem rather than just complaining.

How can their claims ever be processed if they have no documents?
Young male economic migrants should just be turned round and sent back to where they came from.

It all the appeals that stymie the asylum process, appeal after appeal.
If we want to be generous, then one appeal only and then either accepted here or deported.

Oreo

It all the appeals that stymie the asylum process, appeal after appeal.
If we want to be generous, then one appeal only and then either accepted here or deported.

Lawyers make an absolute fortune out of these appeals…
We are a joke, not just the asylum problem, cost-of-living crisis, crime.. So much wrong with this country and it seems so little will to do too much about it by our politicians..

Many thanks for all those who bothered to reply to my thread. I usually swerve opening a post on such an emotive subject, and I won’t be doing it again!

Bazza

Many thanks for all those who bothered to reply to my thread. I usually swerve opening a post on such an emotive subject, and I won’t be doing it again!

Gransnet can be lovely and very supportive, but sometimes you need a thick skin!

Frogoet

A lot of people here are swallowing the right wing media. It is not a piece of cake waiting to get leave to stay- refugee status. They cannot work even voluntarily. Very limited resources. If lucky they live near a city with access to charities who can help with family reunification and house and job hunting once they have leave.
I worked with those waiting.
They were largely very appreciative and if they trusted you told you their stories. Murdered police brothers, smashed kneecaps for being in opposition, gay …

A lot won’t have those stories to tell. A lot will be coming for the perks! Why get rid of their papers if they are all genuine? I would keep my papers so that this government would know which war torn country I was fleeing from.
The Eastern Europeans aren’t fighting a war, are they? I have no problem with genuine refugees coming here for help.

Aveline

That's just the ones that are picked up officially. I have seen videos of these rubber boats landing on beaches and black lads just running for it into suburban streets. God knows where they go from there. I feel very sorry for people living in these south coast towns.

True. The most worrying aspect, for me, is that these are overwhelmingly young men probably originating from countries that have a mysoginist-based culture where respect for women is appallingly low.

If, as many claim, they are fleeing regimes where murder, torture, gang-rape, etc, is practically the norm then why are they leaving their womenfolk behind to face these terrors?

MY next door neighbour housed a refugee for a couple of years. He was fleeing conflict in Sudan. His family had been killed or imprisoned . He couldn't work legally but did various jobs for people in exchange for food/ fixing his bike/ the odd bit of cash. He was an athlete and joined the local running club and ran marathons etc so training took up a lot of his time. He was very polite and quiet. He did eventually get a place in a government hostel outside of London but kept in touch with my neighbour. He came back to visit last week with the news that he’d been granted leave to remain -TEN YEARS after arriving. He's also got a job for the first time in 10 years. Good for him but Surely this length of time is unacceptable. The Home Office needs to speed up its processing.

Still wondering where and how they are going to wherever. Is it random or are they taken to various towns ? It is very rude and very strange to label people as right wing just because they ask perfectly reasonable questions. I don’t even live in the UK but am still wondering where they go and how things are organised. No axe to grind, doesn’t affect me.

Aveline

How can their claims ever be processed if they have no documents?
Young male economic migrants should just be turned round and sent back to where they came from.

All migrants, male and female should be turned round and sent back to where they came from.

I'm certain my late father didn't serve 6 years in the army or my late mother work 12 hour shifts in a munitions factory for it to come to this . Where was the land fit for heroes after the war that they were promised ? They got nothing, they had to start from scratch and work for it. Let this immigrants stay in their own countries and do the same. This country is a laughing stock .

What do those who criticise think should be done with these people?
We have asylum laws and these have to be followed.
Or shall we just tip them all in the sea?

I've already posted my suggestion

Aveline

How can their claims ever be processed if they have no documents?
Young male economic migrants should just be turned round and sent back to where they came from.

But doing that contravenes the law on asylum. Are you saying the UK should break the law?

I am not saying there is not a huge problems and nor am I saying that the current system for processing people is not seriously flawed. But I am saying that it is simplistic to suggest that there is an easy solution.... just send them back.

Starmer has the right approach in that he wishes to emasculate the gangs who profit from this trade, but we need to understand that there is no magic wand for achieving this - that it will all take time.

Maybe it's time to amend some laws?

The law relating to this is international - amending might take a very very long time!! -= even supposing this was the right and decent thing to do.

If this law is international, how come some countries have stopped people entering their countries? Ie Australia

I want to know when Labour are going to smash the gangs of people smugglers. Shame Rwanda plans weren't taken forward.

vegansrock

MY next door neighbour housed a refugee for a couple of years. He was fleeing conflict in Sudan. His family had been killed or imprisoned . He couldn't work legally but did various jobs for people in exchange for food/ fixing his bike/ the odd bit of cash. He was an athlete and joined the local running club and ran marathons etc so training took up a lot of his time. He was very polite and quiet. He did eventually get a place in a government hostel outside of London but kept in touch with my neighbour. He came back to visit last week with the news that he’d been granted leave to remain -TEN YEARS after arriving. He's also got a job for the first time in 10 years. Good for him but Surely this length of time is unacceptable. The Home Office needs to speed up its processing.

He’s sounds like one of the genuine people that needs our help. Ten years is far too long to process someone.

nanna8

Still wondering where and how they are going to wherever. Is it random or are they taken to various towns ? It is very rude and very strange to label people as right wing just because they ask perfectly reasonable questions. I don’t even live in the UK but am still wondering where they go and how things are organised. No axe to grind, doesn’t affect me.

Angela Rayner wants every town to take their share of these people.