That burkini!

Thank you for your good wishes, very much appreciated.

The many links found on the internet are very much up do date- did women really wear thongs in the 50s??? I certainly don't think so.

I have of course no medical training whatsowever- but did extensive research as part of my rôle in charge of leisure services for a complex with a pool- and at all the conferences and training sessions, the message was loud and clear- as well as the one that somehow, for many reasons, some nationalities/groups are much better at accepting proper showering as normal and automatic, and others not and that this official.

granjura unlike I suspect you. I do keep up to date with modern medicine! I have to as its a requirement of my judicial appointment.
The ideas you are talking about are definitely very old fashioned, dating back to about the 1950s if not before. So long as people wash/ shower regularly there would be no harmful bacteria to 'wick'
You also seem to imply that sweat carries bacteria? Nonsense.
I'm not contributing any longer to this outdated theory of yours.
I wish you happy Easter and a speedy ( and successful) outcome to your surgery.

Well, that's Iceland crossed off my list as a potential holiday destination.

I'm intrigued by all these hygiene issues too. Where did it all begin? I was under the misguided impression that pools had chlorine in them for a reason. It wouldn't occur to me to even think about leaking ani. My friend confessed to having a sneaky pee in the Health Club pool the other day-I was a,bit at that but so what, really? It's only pee (and isn't it supposed to be antiseptic?).

I've heard about thongs, though, being a carrier of bacteria (I suppose that stands to reason, really), but never as a health hazard. A bit icky? Maybe.

I never showered as a child, either. No-one did. I don't think anyone had a shower. We were lucky to have an inside lav in my neck of the woods.

And pretty much anyone who went in the sea was subject to the presence of floating "articles". We survived!

I like the idea of swimming covered up. I've gone into the sea fully clothed, as has dd, on many an occasion.

It doesn't seem to be de rigeur yet, though, in pools. Perhaps we should start a campaign.

Before I go, the location of the pool meant we had many young boys, men, families who would cycle in 'Hawaii' style shorts, and use the same to swim, dry out and cycle home again. BTW you really should shower well AFTER using the pool as well, as the chemicals will stay on the skin and cause all sorts of problems, again, for some more than others. I dread to think what the of those boys/men were like when they got home after a 3 mile cycle with all those chemicals rubbing.
Hey ho.

Back to the burkini- a slippery slope? why oh why?

Galen, I thought I had edited honeypot for vagina - somehow didn't work.

Wearing g-strings is very well known in medical circles for causing thrush, but also all sorts of nasty infections as the thin string works as a wick from the anus to the vagina- especially when cycling (at the gym or outdoors- or long car,train, plane journeys). Find it very bizarre that as a medic you are not fully aware of this- perhaps not been in practice for a very long time. Very much taught as part of modern urology and general practice.

What deems, or not, as a hygiene health risk, or not- is very much cultural- and that was my point. Someone mentioned it could be a health risk, and I pointed out why it isn't - and how comparatively other things we think as 'normal' are indeed much greater and proven risks. Ask anyone who works in a pool, private or otherwise. Increasing chemicals to neutralise risk is possible, but causes great inconvenience, especially to some (young children the elderly, those with breathing problems/asthma, dermatological problems and burning eyes- as well as huge extra cost) so anything that can be done to reduce chemicals is a good thing.

Happy Easter all

I'm with you there kitty and thanks Galen for sharing your Iceland experience, just off to check my honeypot

jane now that was funny...

the pool I was talking about was in a nature beauty spot and many came there on the cycle tracks- actually, oh yes. Won't explain again why I made the comment- if you go back to the thread, it is clear.

Bye for now. Sometimes silence is better- I am learning you see x

Not read every post here I must admit - yesterday I did start when it was simply discussing the garment - had to go into the Marks website to see what they were like! Have not read the posts since it digressed to the showering or lack of it and personal remarks- but maybe the open communal showers at these places have something to do with the reluctance of people to use them.

On a similar vein has anyone else seen the all in one coverup suits for children which filter out the harmful rays of the sun and negate the need for copious amounts of sun cream? They look a bit like a burkini but no head covering and have a picture on them of Star Wars or something. I thought they were a good idea for small and especially fair skinned children. Last year we were able to get a t shirt of the same type of fabric for our red headed DGD so she could pop in and out of our pool - saved so much hassle and kept our filters clean!

As to ladies wishing to swim covered up - what is wrong with wearing a pair of light trousers and a long sleeved top over a normal swim suit?

Could have been interesting though.

Whew! Glad not the shop!!

In Iceland ( country, not shop) we had to shower naked before going into the Blue Pool. The sight of a load of naked middle aged and elderly ladies trying to preserve their modesty had me doubled up with laughter.

This is what I call a 'second cup of tea' thread.

Off to put the kettle on and check my jar of honey has been shoved to the back of the cupboard or it might get ideas above its station.

granjura honeypots indeed! Do you mean the vaginal area?
What you are saying is a load of nonsense anyway. One might even say ?⚽️⚾️???
Where on earth do you get these ideas from? They are not medically sound!

Not funny, I was eating honey on my rice cakes when I read that post . I am baffled that I survived childhood, all swimming pools where I lived were open pools, no showers . And we swam in the river Taff

I was going to put honey on my croissant but it put me right off
( I had never heard the expression before)

Brings a new meaning to ' on yer bike' too

I was wondering how we are supposed to thoroughly wash our nether regions at a poolside shower before jumping in for a swim.
Having to do that rather defeats the object of a burkini.

Mind you it is providing a good laugh , not to mention a snigger (titter ye not!) I shall never be able to put a jar of honey on the table again with a straight face

As far as piddling in the pool, that is the least of your worries- it is fecal matter that is the problem. Anyone who, say, cycles in the shorts they intend to wear in the pool, will sweat on the saddle and leak anal fluids. This is the main area that needs thorough showering before going into the pool

Correct me if I am wrong, but we are talking men or boys here, aren't we?
At least from my observation, the type of long baggy swimming short seen in pools and on beaches is a male garment.
1) are these people meant to strip off and shower in the nude at the poolside showers? I can understand a reluctance from both sides. If showering in swimming shorts/trunks, how do they access the critical area?
2) that apart , from my experience (and our resident doctors , galen included will also correct me if I am wrong) men and boys do not have honeypots So what on earth has that got to do with "Burkinis"?

A totally unrelated series of arguments and examples has been raised(10 page letters to health clubs or whatever - and no I am NOT disputing the veracity just the relevance of these examples) so that a discussion which was never started can be turned into a diatribe.
Talk about getting the wrong end of the stick and then beating everyone over the head with it!

I can stop worrying, we don't have cyclists in our pool, it is at the very top of a very steep hiil , no one would have the strength to swim if they cycled that hill .

What on earth happened to this thread! I've not checked it for a few days as I didn't have anything further to add on the topic and look what's happened! I'm sorry to find that Alea and Granjura have fallen out over such an apparently side issue. They're usually so sensible I'd always thought. Oh well -where there's a Gran there's an argument. Happy Easter!

So many threads do that Jalima we all need cheering up sometimes.?

Honey pot kitty entirely different. Keep up there.?

annsixty I think the thread has changed in tone from contentious ( or totally bewildered in my case) to very funny. It has cheered up my morning.

It is a serious subject, though, and open to debate. And I am sorry I first brought up the possibility of a link between some clothing in the swimming pool and hygiene although I did think it was a valid one.
Apologies, and Happy Easter.

I've only just read this thread as I was expecting it to a lighthearted thread and I've been quite busy!

I'm really as to how a fun thread ended up on the topic of cycling, thongs and jars of honey - unless the honey is deployed to stop the thongs rubbing!

And, I take offence at continual sniping about the Brits!

I think any thread where posts are deleted can be considered contentious and now I wish I hadn't bothered posting at all.

I wonde what the use of chemicals is about in oools if we are all under threat of contamination from seeaty cyclists ar*es!! They had to clear the wave pool at Centerparcs when a kiddie pooped. Took about 15 mins, after the fishibg nets were deployed, for the chemicals to work their magic and folk wetre able to return to the pool.