That burkini!

I'm a very poor swimmer and blind as a bat without my lenses, so steer clear of public pools. I'm starting to see this as a good thing....

Today 07:58 janeainsworth

Can someone please explain what cyclists wearing g-strings which may or may not transfer bacteria from their anuses (ani ?) to their 'honeypots' (the mind truly boggling now) beneath their cycling shorts which they then don't remove before getting into a swimming pool
has to do with whether M&S sell burkinis?
I am totally
In my somewhat limited experience of cycling, journeys tend to terminate either at a tea-shop or the pub. I don't think I've ever noticed any hot, sweaty cyclists of either sex arrive at our local pool and enter the water fully clothed

My thought exactly Maggie ... what the ......?

And then .... when 'honeypots' were introduced...is it me?

Why is it a particularly contentious thread? A discussion/debate about a garment for swimming? Some people are fearful that selling a garment that allows a particular group of women to swim in public is dangerous for society. Others raise the point that we are all constrained in what we wear by society . It is just a normal forum debate.

This Alea, was very thinly veiled indeed, and pretty rude:

'I must have misunderstood, I thought you were a teacher in the UK , not director of a private leisure centre for many years' ...

and comes close to calling me a liar, no?

I never attack, my comment which was deleted came after several unpleasant exchanges, including the above. Very different to you (in the case however jane) again and again immediately jumping on a post I make with a silly, shocked, etc, emoticon or comment. And I don't go running to the mods either, or flounce, or change names everytime somebody says 'boo'.

Time for physio- will be a lot less painful ...

Washed, clean bedding, bandages changed...

So have you not heard (Galen in particular) of the advice not to wear G-string pants for long car or plane journeys, or for cycling indoors or outdoors:

the small string on a thong allows the anus and honeypot to be connected with each other. The thongs as a link will carry bacteria from the rectum straight to the honeypot. Bacteria such as group B streptococcal disease and Escherichia Coli (intestinal infections usually found in humans or animals) can be passed into both the anus and vagina?

As a woman wearing Western dress, you are the subject of derision, judgement, comment and sometimes even abuse from the moment you leave your house in the morning to the moment you re-enter it in the evening.

What the .....? I sometimes feel I live in another world. One in which I can't remember being the subject of derision, judgement, comment or abuse since I wore that poncho and those clogs to the local back in the 70s. And tbh I deserved it.

I have decided to enter this very contentious thread only to agree with someone upthread, think it was Ana who said that showering in her youth was unknown, it certainly was in mine. When did it start?
I haven't been in a public pool for many a year,but have taken GC to lessons quite recently, no one showered first.
And does one shower in a swimsuit or not?
If not does one then parade naked back to the changing cubicle to put suit on? The thought of acres of unclothed bodies is putting me off my breakfast.
When we had swimming lessons at school, we had to walk a mile and a half to outside, cold " baths" change out of uniform in wooden cubicles which stank and then get in freezing water. Not a shower in sight.
Is this all a newish concept or am I very behind the times?

As a man (yes I am, just checking) I would not dare criticise a woman (or man) for what she chooses to wear.

You should wear what floats your boat, whether it be comfort, fashion, uniform, drab, bright, demure or sexy. (a pair of sexy jeans would be good, but that's an opinion, not a criticism)

I like to wear bright colours, went out in my best tee shirt yesterday, black with hints of blue (bedroom) white (ceiling) and colours from most painting jobs over the last couple of years. Is "look at the state of your shirt" a criticism ?

As far as my wife goes, IF she asks I will give an honest (mainly) opinion, but never critique.

Great posts Getinonthehabit and Penstemmon. Western girls and women in general are put under constant pressure to conform and perform.

Galen, I am surprised you didn't understand my post about infections carried from the anus via clothing, especially after cycling or sitting in the car, etc. If the same clothing is worn to go into the pool (as in long shorts) then it is a definite risk. But I wasn't talking about men- and especially not about incontinent ones. Nurse just come in - so off for now.

I feel the absolute opposite getting

Don't give a toss what people think. I am clean, respectable and try to wear stuff I feel happy in. Don't like it? Then whoever is judging must get over it. Their problem not mine. But what I wear is entirely up to me and no-one else.

I think Penstemmon makes an excellent point. Western women have freedom to choose what to wear free from cultural constraints BUT are not free from the constant critique of men (and other women). As a woman wearing Western dress, you are the subject of derision, judgement, comment and sometimes even abuse from the moment you leave your house in the morning to the moment you re-enter it in the evening. Yes, you can choose the face you present to the world, but that freedom comes at a price.

I feel increasingly uncomfortable about having to display my less-than-perfect body in public, in the name of "freedom", in order to simply go for a swim at my local pool or club. I know 'll be ogled, critiqued and probably dismissed by the men there. And, yes, I'd like to let it all hang out and simply not care, but I DO care.

I sometimes wonder how free we are, really.

Galen

If you use an outside swimming pool when on holiday isn't it important not to wash sun cream off as you might burn.
Now you mention it Tegan, of course, yes, that is a good point! Go under the shower (if there is one) then back to the sunbed for a fresh application of suncream then into the pool.

Especially on the shoulders and back of the neck (as t-shirts are banned).

Shin get? Try sphincter

Only just looked at this thread!
Granjura men leaking anal fluids?
No unless they have a continence problem. The anal shin get is normally strong enough to contain fluids!
What a load of s**t!

Why is a swimsuit that covers arms/legs a slippery slope?? I have often seen far more flesh exposed than I think is ever appropriate or even necessary in local pools /on beach. I think that there is a blurred line between "choice" and control for Western women. I do believe that women should be free to make choices about dress and appearance and do not agree that men or "relgion" should dictate to women. However women are regularly bombarded by expectations about body & appearance and I am always undecided how "free"our choices actually are. Judgments are made all the time based on appearance. I suppose one could argue that if we all wore a trad.nuns outfit we might be trated more equally and not pigeon holed: as chav/ rich / tottie/ frump/ desirable etc etc etc.

I am just watching a TV programme on the Brontë sisters, and what you say Nankate makes me think of the life a Victorian girls of a certain class.

Roses you said that if Muslim women want to wear the Burkini that is up to them. That is what worries me, I don't think they have much choice.

I found from the discussions I had with my female Asian students they had little choice in many things we take for granted. I realised why they had such strong bonds with their female siblings and friends, it was because they needed a support network to cope with life.

I can't get worked up about this

If you use an outside swimming pool when on holiday isn't it important not to wash sun cream off as you might burn...apologies if not relevant but can't read the whole thread easily.…..

Oh as granjura says, life is just too short, so enough of this nonsense.

However, to say "I never attack you"" after the two words used "n-***y and bi**er" makes me question this interpretation of "attack"
Nobody called anybody a liar, even in veiled terms, nobody is flouncing anywhere (but welcome back anyway!)
Let's agree to differ.
And I hope nobody else misinterprets my use GN emoticons as and when they are available

It is a very slippery slope. I am with Jane10.

Reading all the posts makes me realise why I hate going into swimming pools on holiday ( or the sea) I shall continue to be fully clad at all times and stay on dry land.
I can't see anything wrong with this burkini thing,if Muslim women want to wear it that's up to them.

I remember the revolting verucca bath we had to walk through.
Probably where I caught my verucca!