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That burkini!

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Alea Wed 23-Mar-16 09:18:04

Remember Nigella's burkini a couple of years ago? Now M&S have produced a new swimwear range including burkini so.
Enlightened? Sexist? Good marketing? Or does it solve the "Beach body ready" dilemma?

Burkini swimwear range launched by M&S - ITV News - ITV.com
www.itv.com › news › burkini-swimwear...

Alea Sat 26-Mar-16 08:52:45

So I googled "showering and Swimming Pools"
and I found this: (apologies for the link, I am emphatically NOT advertising!!
I just don't think we Brits need to beat ourselves up over IMHO a red herring an irrelevance to the discussion.
Showering
Swimming
The United States of America
Swimming: Why do people in America not shower before they get into the pool?
I've been noticing this for 8+ years now. Efforts to buck the habit have been unsuccessful smile
4 Answers
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Two reasons: First, Americans don't understand the reason to shower before entering a pool (and if they don't understand it, they won't do it), and second, Americans are increasingly reluctant to be naked in a locker room
etc etc etc

annsixty Sat 26-Mar-16 08:36:30

Anniebach what people can afford is absolutely nothing to do with their behaviour at times. My D lived in Antigua for some years and the flight was such that it either landed in Barbados on the way out or picked up there on the way back. Some of the families who must have spent many thousands on their holidays were people you would not have wanted for neighbours. That is probably my unacceptable side coming out but very true.

Anniebach Sat 26-Mar-16 08:05:42

I am amazed that British people who can afford to holiday in such exotic places speak like that, perhaps even the canaries have cheap, tough and rough holiday areas .

NanKate Sat 26-Mar-16 07:19:04

Very well said Lucky

Luckylegs9 Sat 26-Mar-16 05:59:19

The very word shouts out oppression, why call anything a Burkini. I have been on holiday and seen women clothed from head to toe, venturing into the sea,with enormous difficulty, it is totally ridiculous, whilst their scantily clad spouses merrily swim off. I wonder why the men are so insecure that they are afraid that anyone might see any part of their wives anatomy,even their hair. Whereas the world and his wife can see theirs. This is a democratic country, it is not what our grandmothers struggled for. I have visited many countries and accepted their customs out of respect, whilst not agreeing with them. So I think M and S have lost the plot. You know what they can donwith their Burkini.

henbane Sat 26-Mar-16 01:03:59

Hastily changing the subject - have just checked out the burkini ad. I am puzzled by the statement: Product Length: On the knee - when the picture shows quite clearly that neither the top or the bottom half is knee length (hip length top, ankle length bottoms). WTF are M&S on about?

Jalima Fri 25-Mar-16 22:56:33

although I do pop under the shower before getting in the pool, when you think about it, it is fairly pointless.

Jalima Fri 25-Mar-16 22:55:10

only two people mentioned hygiene issues the other one was me grin
But I do remember that being a rule at some swimming pools.

I can't really see how having a quick splash under a shower at a swimming pool can take off layers of suncream laden with billions of bacteria from the skin. Pointless, really, unless you scrub every inch with anti-bacterial wash. Using one afterwards to rinse off the nasty smelly chlorine from the swimming pool water is quite sensible, though.
Perhaps the pool attendant wasn't really a doctor, if he was he can't have studied dermatology.

www.bodyandsoul.com.au/health/health+news/billions+of+bacteria+live+on+your+skin,25877

Anniebach Fri 25-Mar-16 22:54:37

I thought everyone went in the shower before going in the pool , but I have never stood and watched m I think the same as Jalima so no cutting of chlorine please,

Isn't it a little different to ask pool attendants around the world if people shower before plunging in the pool

JessM Fri 25-Mar-16 21:30:09

Oh I tried to swim in the area once, in the summer, and there was a warm surface layer of about a foot and icy water below. smile

janeainsworth Fri 25-Mar-16 21:03:36

I'm not sure whose 'swipes' you are referring to mumofmadboys, but when someone (in this instance granjura)makes unjustified, and unpleasant, generalisations about British people, other posters are perfectly entitled to challenge what has been asserted.

You have perhaps not been on Gransnet long enough to realise that such posts from GJ appear with tedious regularity.

Maranta Fri 25-Mar-16 20:20:45

Agreed mumofmadboys.
Just ignore, let it wash over you, chill!

NanKate Fri 25-Mar-16 20:17:49

I am sorry Granjura I did not mean to offend you. It was a thoughtless remark.

absent Fri 25-Mar-16 20:17:48

JessM A bit late to reply to your comment but I have only just read it. I have indeed swum both at Rabbit Island and Tahunanui and the water was gloriously warm every time. Of course, I swim in the sea only in the summer; I am no longer of an age when I feel that I must swim, whatever the weather, just because I am at the coast.

Ana Fri 25-Mar-16 20:17:34

Several posters talked about the hygiene issue about burkinis...

I've looked back through the thread and only two people mentioned hygiene issues, granjura - one of them being you. Gross exaggeration doesn't exactly give weight to your arguments.

mumofmadboys Fri 25-Mar-16 20:11:34

Please can we stop the nasty swipes at each other. It is tiresome.

Alea Fri 25-Mar-16 19:56:25

I must have misunderstood, I thought you were a teacher in the UK , not director of a private leisure centre for many years
- multi-talented indeed!

Alea Fri 25-Mar-16 19:53:44

How on earth did a thread I started because I was amused at M&S's latest swimwear offering morph into another opportunity to knock the unhygienic British vis-à-vis other European nationalities? confused
We invented the flush lavatory for heaven's sake- thank you Thomas Crapper!???

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 25-Mar-16 19:43:59

Yes. Put me right off when I first heard that.

Jalima Fri 25-Mar-16 19:04:29

If you eat NZ lamb (perhaps no-one does, but I do like to support NZ) then I believe it is all halal.

Jalima Fri 25-Mar-16 19:03:08

I think I am more worried about little children piddling in the pool hmm

granjura Fri 25-Mar-16 18:58:24

jalima- I agree the name is just stupid!

NanKate - how can you even begin to compare hala meat and a burkini- I just do not know, truly. It's offensive.

granjura Fri 25-Mar-16 18:43:15

I loved it- and the Brits are so much better at trillions of things- but famous for being very poor at showering at pools, here or abroad. As a director of a private leisure centre for many years, in charge of leisure facilities. It was a nightmare getting the message through at how cholrine and other cleaners could be cut drastically if only people showered- helping with breathing problems, red eyes, etc- and by definition, that pool only had affluent members.

From the Canaries to the USA, Hawaii and South Africa- all over the world, I've talked to pool attendants who just could not fathom why oh why the Brits just refused to shower before entering the pool - despite notices, etc. They were often told to 'f* off* when reminding people.

Several posters talked about the hygiene issue about burkinis, and one compared to the banning of long shorts- and the difference, so my post didn't come out of thin air and makes total sense in the context. A clean burkini is no dirtier than our granchildrens' sunsblock swimsuits.

janeainsworth Fri 25-Mar-16 18:15:15

This thread is not about the cleanliness or otherwise of the British people, granjura.
You never miss an opportunity, do you?
Goodness knows how you managed to live here for 40 years.

granjura Fri 25-Mar-16 18:03:19

jane- ask any pool attendant around the world- and they will confirm. The Brits are VERY recalcitrant about showering before entering the pool, both in the UK and abroad. Truth.