Gransnet forums

Style & beauty

Help, very thick bushy frizzy hair.... At a loss what to do.

(58 Posts)
seacliff Sat 12-Aug-17 13:59:16

Sorry for the essay ....The title says it all really. It was dark brown with grey, I've gradually had done dark blond/caramel highlights to blend grey, as dark brown not flattering for my skin now.

It looks awful, one big mass of frizzy, wavy hair, have tried expensive shampoos, products. Coconut oil applied at night gives it good condition, but still a mess style wise.

I have grown it to just on shoulder. I can never blow dry out straighten it to look nice, like the hairdresser does.

It is mostly one length, she said the weight would make it less bushy. Maybe it needs to be a bit longer?

She does thin it, not sure of that helps long-term. Someone said I have Italian type hair.

I don't like it short on me, I am overweight and it makes me feel unfeminine, a helmet of hair, and I then have to wash it every day to give it some bounce.

I wondered about a couple of long layers, hairdresser now don't seem to do layer cuts the same way.

Any ideas please? Just a faint hope that one of you may have similar hair. I know I'm "" lucky"" to have thick hair, but it's really not easy.

I would love a wash and go style, I want to go with my wavy hair, if only it wasn't so bushy. Thanks

MelindaLucy Tue 22-Dec-20 20:40:00

Message deleted by Gransnet for breaking our forum guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

stevelouis Sat 24-Oct-20 03:44:55

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Madgran77 Tue 15-Aug-17 07:46:52

I also have thick curly hair and any thinning it turns it into a frizzy wild mess! My saving grace is an expensive quality cut (Aveda Wimbledon) and Aveda Be Curly products ...no other product ever worked. I no longer fight the curl but use it. I spiral my hair ( chin length bob) round my fingers when wet , twisting two strands together, after adding Be Curly Curl enhancer to hair and rubbing on fingers. I leave it to dry naturally, it curls, doesn't frizz. I have to get a cut every 8 weeks otherwise all hell breaks loose!

seacliff Tue 15-Aug-17 05:38:22

I am a bit confused, always thought brushing was good for your hair, and I have a large good quality bristle round brush, suggested by a previous hairdresser, and large paddle brush.

Also have ghds, my hair is so thick, would take ages to go through all the layers and surely it can't be good to use every time?

I have had some success with wrapping before, ie brushing hair sideways round head while drying.

I'm going to keep this and try all ideas thanks!

Evertheoptimist Tue 15-Aug-17 04:48:35

I also have thick, frizzy hair. I use GHD straighteners.
They are amazing! People are always shocked when I say that my hair is not naturally straight.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Mon 14-Aug-17 09:06:53

I used to struggle with my hair (thick and curly) and I find that drying it at the same time as brushing it helps to tame it. This is something that I have only found out recently (why did it take me nigh on 60 years ?) and it's not fool-proof but not such a struggle. I use an ordinary hairdryer with an attachment after putting styling gel on.
Also a really good cut from a good hairdresser (needn't cost the earth) goes a long way.

W11girl Mon 14-Aug-17 08:37:55

I use rollers, hair straighteners and heat protector and a wide tooth comb...and it works for me. Much easier than trying to blow dry it straight. I wash my hair, spray it with heat protector, dry it freestyle (gently) then I use more heat protector and straightners ...by piling my hair up and doing it in sections doing the underneath first. Once done, if needed I comb my hair and insert rollers and leave in for as long as I can. Make sure you use the biggest rollers you can find, as I once used the wrong size and they got tangled in my hair and had to have some cut out!! I always do this 2 days before an event so it has time to calm down. But I do use the straightners every morning just to "re-shape". It sounds lengthy but it takes less than 5 minutes every morning.
Trial and error, but nothing is impossible...you will get there.

Suzyb Sun 13-Aug-17 23:24:43

My hair is very thick inherited from my mum and passed onto my daughter. Mine was always straight until 5 years ago when it started to frizz. Daughter has hers Kerastraightened and talked me into having mine done. It's so much calmer now. It will never be totally straight but I find as it's jaw length if I tie it back while in bed it keeps it straighter. My hairdresser gave me a top up recently on the roots and I colour it myself to save on hairdressing bills (an ash blonde with no ammonia). I too prefer mine a bit longer so I have the option of either tying it back or leaving it down. Hope this helps.

seacliff Sun 13-Aug-17 22:51:49

Thanks so much for all the ideas, I'm going to try most of them!

One thing I do like is coconut oil. I apply it either overnight, or an hour or so before washing. It makes my hair softer and healthier looking, as good as much more expensive products I've tried.

I've had olaplex 1 and 2 for about last 4 times at hairdressers. Then she blow dried it, felt so silky, not like my hair! It's £10 a time, but the effect doesn't last long, so not sure I'll do it again.

I may try rollers too, if I can work put how to put them in to get right effect.... No heat damage with them.

I like having hair a bit longer, like it swishing, and to be able to tie it back when walking, it's more versatile.

I would like to blend some grey in with blond, to gradually go grey. But I hate that grey parting, may have to get that spray you all use as a temporary measure. I can't afford to keep going to hairdresser.

allatsea Sun 13-Aug-17 19:53:10

Maybe let it grow 'au natural', colour and frizz wize, but I would suggest - invest in a good cut that suits your face.
I have spent years and £s on colours, highlights, products etc etc but decided to let my hair be its natural colour - which I had not seen for 30 years and have had it cut from a red head shoulder length bob to short(. Its a grey/white/silver combo that takes 10 mins to dry if left naturally and I run a bit of putty through to give a bit of shape...I decided that life is too short. I hope you find a workable solution

sylviann Sun 13-Aug-17 18:18:18

I tame my frizzy thick hair with first lady hair oils you can buy them on line from Elysee star they are quite cheap I also use a leave in cream conditioner for afro hair there are some videos on YouTube showing you how to wrap hair to straighten it I've been wrapping my hair for about 20 years and it works fine and lasts a few days good luck I hope you find these helpful

Tessa101 Sun 13-Aug-17 17:42:29

The new trick that's been banded about and I've tried it and it works, is use conditioner on your hair first then shampoo it... yes it sounds strange but it works. Dampen hair, do not drench it then condition it, leave in for 5/10 mins then shampoo out then dry it. Don't condition after shampoo. Good luck

Magrithea Sun 13-Aug-17 17:16:42

If your hair will curl have you tried the 'Curly Girl' method - you need to use the right products and follow the method but it's very easy and gives fab results. After years of straightenin my DD swears by it!

Midge Sun 13-Aug-17 17:09:02

Go to a top class hairdresser so they can actually assess your hair and desires properly. Any advice here is difficult without understanding your hair properly. Vidal Sassoon is good. Wickedly expensive of course

marpau Sun 13-Aug-17 16:53:50

U agree Verol22 wish I had discovered keratin treatment years ago mine usually lasts about 4 months and is fantastic when on holiday as heat seemed to make my frizz worse

Vero122 Sun 13-Aug-17 15:27:25

I have my hair keratin straightened every 3-4 months, it is well worth the money, and the two hours it takes. Never been so happy with my hair as I am now, in 61 years!

janeayressister Sun 13-Aug-17 15:05:13

I have awful frizzy hair that just sticks out as though I am plugged into the electricity. However, Thank you God for GHD straighteners. Don't bother buying cheap ones as they are a waste of space. I used to iron my hair when I was young, putting brown paper between my hair and the iron.
I now use a reputable shampoo and Shwartcopf straightening blow dry cream. I dry each layer with a large brush and then straighten it layer by layer. I put hair spray on my comb and draw it though my hair and it keeps it smooth for a day or so. I have it coloured every three weeks by a mobile hairdresser. As I live in the North so it's not as expensive as say Kent. For me it is worth ever penny as I feel good if my hair is OK.

hummingbird Sun 13-Aug-17 14:52:37

I'm another curly-going-on-frizzy girl. I think that drying my hair very straight, or using straighteners makes me look all wrong - I was given waves for a reason! I wear my hair to the shoulders, lightly layered, and I blow-dry using a good quality, large round brush. Then I put my 20 year-old heated rollers in, just for a couple of minutes (by the time I've put the back ones in, the front ones are ready for coming off). They calm down any frizz, and give me soft waves (a bit like Joanna Lumley, but not as pretty!), and takes no time at all. Try it!!!

ShirleyC Sun 13-Aug-17 14:36:38

I can honestly say the only product I can use is the Moroccan oil it's been my saviour my hair has a mind of its own thick & course can tell the weather by it it shrinks goes long goes thick etc.
It's now available in Sally out lets or on line,it's the blue one with orange M,
Just 2 spots every day on dry hair job done.

shysal Sun 13-Aug-17 14:31:00

I too have thick wavy hair which is dark brown turning grey. Since yesterday it is bright red, but that is neither here nor there! It is just above shoulder length like yours, but layered. The only product I find of any use is Mixed Chicks leave-in conditioner. Frizz-ease doesn't make any difference. I too have a cupboard full of rejected products. With a wide-toothed comb I apply a 10p sized blob of the conditioner to wet clean hair and allow to dry naturally, which will take some time. If in a hurry I use a hair dryer with diffuser. When dry it will be a bit crisp but an Afro comb softens it. If I want a smoother look I use a straightener brush which does help, but it will always kink as the day goes on, and anyway I prefer it wavy/curly.
I have linked to the Mixed Chicks products on Ebay, I see they have some samples which could be worth a try.
www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2060353.m570.l1311.R3.TR4.TRC1.A0.H0.Xmixed+chicks.TRS0&_nkw=mixed+chicks+leave+in+conditioner&_sacat=0

DeeWBW Sun 13-Aug-17 12:26:08

Wow! I thought I had written this post, as I have exactly the same problem. Thick hair really is a problem, isn't it? I'm looking forward to the answers you get, as I need the advice too. I like to be able to wash my hair, stand with my head pointing down, partially dry it, run my fingers through it and then be good to go.

MrsMoo Sun 13-Aug-17 12:15:52

I would suggest getting yourself along to a Good Quality Hairdressers, and get a Good Consultatiuon about Colour etc also a Brazilian Blowdry (Keratin Treatment) or its also called The Permanent BlowDry its a bit costly, around 150-200 quid, this treatment is a miracle worker in that it does away with that thick frizzy look. When you wash your hair in the future you can just blast it with the hair drier and no straighteners or styling is required - Well worth the money as it lasts for ages. Daniel Hersheson Salons are Really Good xx

ajanela Sun 13-Aug-17 12:12:06

I have 3 friends with the same sort of hair and for every day they pull it tightly back in a band high on their head. In fact we were all amazed when they showed us how frizzy their hair was. Now your hair is longer maybe you could try that. They do use staighteners and one I think sometimes has it professional straightened.

I fight to put a bit of a curl in my very straight hair and you are fighting to straighten yours.

Shizam Sun 13-Aug-17 11:58:06

Another owner of thick, unruly hair. I've had keratin Brazilian blow dry treatment which is amazing. But v expensive and cannot be good for hair condition.
Been recommended product called Olaplex, which some hairdressers offer. Friend with similar hair has tried it and says it helps.
Am also in midst of painful process of growing colour out and embracing the grey to help the condition.
I find mine easier to deal with shoulder length and with long layers. Wash it only weekly, lots of good conditioner. Leave til 70 per cent dry, then either put in large Velcro rollers or twirl into two tight buns (a la Princess Leia) and leave for as long as possible. Looks mad when you first take them out but soon relaxes into nice waves.

seacliff Sun 13-Aug-17 11:42:32

Thanks so much. My hair isn't really curly.... If it was I'd certainly go with the curls. It's wavy and kinky at ends but straight nearer head.

I've tried a Bob before but some goes one way, some another. It's strong. I loved it in my 30s, it was longish layered , I could let it dry naturally. Age and grey and color have made it different now.

I'll look at the sites you suggest thanks. I have tried a few hairdressers, we are very rural and it's hard to find good ones. I do go to a Paul Mitchell salon now.