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silverspoon125 Thu 13-Oct-22 11:53:25

Looking at Liz Truss and the dresses (uniform) that she wears no doubt very expensive, why does the material of the dresses look so cheap, looks like there made of nylon and are clinging to her underslip. Is it just me. That said, whatever you think of her as a politician it's a sensible way to dress as I cannot imagine being in the public eye everyday waking up to " I've got nothing to wear".

DerbyshireLass Sat 15-Oct-22 14:19:38

Theoddbird

If it was a man would you have commented on what he was wearing? I get so annoyed by posts such as these.

Yes I would, because I believe politicians, male or female, should dress to a certain standard.

People often commented on Johnson's appearance, and I can remember people being incensed by Michael Foot's donkey jacket. It is not only female politicians who get it wrong.

Clothing is important, it is not frivolous nor is it about vanity. It goes much deeper than that. Why do you think so many institutions are so pernickety about dress codes.

The military wear uniforms specifically designed to impress and project an image of power and strength. Financial institutions and the judiciary insist that their members wear dark sober clothing to give an impression of gravitas, responsibility and sobriety. And so on........

Our politicians represent our country on the world stage. It is hugely important how they dress and present themselves.

I agree that Nicole Surgeon always looks smart and businesslike, not especially chic or stylish but always well groomed. Her look is no nonsense, efficient. It says "I am a capable, serious person, ready to do business".

Whether we like it or not, everyone is, to some extent, judged on their appearance. Our image sends out all sorts of messages, some of which are subliminal. If this were not the case why do people go to some considerable effort to look good for a job interview. Because we know how important it is to make a good impression. We have 7 seconds to make a good first impression and we don't get a second chance. It's the first impression that counts and which remains in the memory.

But it doesn't end there. It goes even deeper than that.......

Psychologist are becoming increasingly aware of just how important image can be and how clothing is also such an important component of our self image.

"Enclothed cognition". Def: The systematic influences that clothes have on the wearers psychological processes.

In plain English - how clothes can affect our thoughts, feelings, and behaviours. Put simply when we look good, we feel better about ourselves, and often, because we feel better, we tend to perform better. We feel more upbeat, more positive, more energised.

The great Hollywood costume designer Edith Head once said "we can be anything we want, all we have to do is dress the part".

This is why we understand the principle behind the expression "you should dress for the job you want, not the one you have".

If politicians want to be taken seriously, then they have to dress seriously. Thatcher (love her or hate her) knew this and wore a uniform guaranteed to show herself as a serious person who meant business.

A perfect example of "dressing the part" is the Queen. Her preferred off duty attire was relaxed country tweeds, cashmere sweaters, wax jackets and headscarves. But when she was on duty as the Queen then she wore a distinctive uniform, matching dresses and coats in bold colours, matching hats, black sensible shoes and bag. It became her signature style and it worked beautifully for her. She knew the value of getting it right, even having weights sewn into the hems of her garments so they would remain in place when it was windy (no Marilyn Monroe moments?) . Something that Kate Middleton often struggled with in the early days but she seems to have got that sussed now.

A lot of our politicians would do well to think carefully about the messages their clothing send out. They need to remember that they represent our country on the world stage. Is it too much to ask that they at least look smart and businesslike. And yes that means ties for the men.

Truss looks unkempt, untidy and disorganised. Not exactly a look that is guaranteed to inspire confidence.

polly123 Sat 15-Oct-22 14:17:20

I like clothes and look at men's clothes as well as women. I think Liz Truss has absolutely no sense of style. Her clothes are as boring and repetitive as she is.

sluttygran Sat 15-Oct-22 13:32:06

Truss is as lacking in style as she is in ability.

MissAdventure Sat 15-Oct-22 13:30:23

She looks like a film star.

Gwenisgreat1 Sat 15-Oct-22 13:21:39

The dresses make her look a lot older than she is.

Chestnut Sat 15-Oct-22 12:50:46

Here Liz Truss is shown as 5ft 5ins (listed near all the Trumps!) which I consider average height and agree that's a good height for clothes.

TiggyW Sat 15-Oct-22 12:31:29

Liz Truss seems to be quite tall, so she will have no trouble in finding dresses which fit. For those of us who are 5’0” it’s a different story…?
I do think she would look more professional with a jacket on top.
Boris Johnson always looks as though he has just fallen out of bed.

Cycorax Sat 15-Oct-22 12:14:47

Her clothes are fine. It's her policies and government that are bad.

Maggiemaybe Sat 15-Oct-22 11:49:49

The thing is, if the PM paraded round in those well-cut, top of the range clothes in the current climate there’d be lots of comments on here about her showing off while the woman in the street struggles to pay her energy bills. If she got her wear out of them she’d be accused of wearing the same thing all the time. I’ve had a quick google and apparently she chooses British brands such as Whistles, L K Bennett, Karen Millen, go-to brands of choice for workwear for a lot of professional women. My googling also brought up plenty of photos of her in trousers, which she looks good in, but why should she restrict herself to them?

When it comes to her appearance, I think she’s got the balance right. And that’s probably the only compliment I’ll ever give her!

HannahLoisLuke Sat 15-Oct-22 11:35:26

Jodieb

Now men have left off their ties I think cravats should come back into fashion. I also like to see men wearing scarves. Tweedy jackets and waist
coats look good too.

I agree about men and ties. Business shirts are made to be worn with a tie, the collar just doesn’t sit right when the top button is undone.

Jodieb Sat 15-Oct-22 11:05:31

Now men have left off their ties I think cravats should come back into fashion. I also like to see men wearing scarves. Tweedy jackets and waist
coats look good too.

Alioop Sat 15-Oct-22 10:59:42

Priti Patel wears nice suits and dresses with jackets, but she bounces about like Liz as if a better supporting bra might be the answer. Theresa must be like me and has nothing to jiggle.
I love to see a man in a nice suit, but Boris just looks a scruffy mess every time you see him. As for the hair, I think he uses his fingers and not a comb.

Casdon Sat 15-Oct-22 10:45:47

Fleurpepper

fairfraise

I feel for woman politicians. Their dress is always open to comment! You don't get so much said about men's dress.

Totally agree. As much as I despair about LT's ability to govern- it has nothing to do with her dresses.

There was much more comment about the way Boris looked and how scruffy his hair is though to be fair.

Emelie321 Sat 15-Oct-22 10:41:49

Yammy, vegansrock, Chestnut and DerbyshireLass have all made excellent points in my view.
Come on Liz, get a good bra, ditch the spindly heels, forget about showing off the cleavage at work, and invest in a good quality jacket. Trousers, too, maybe. Presumably you want people to listen to what you have to say, not be distracted by your shapely legs or by wondering what cup size you buy....
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This may be seen as sexist. But I felt the same about Boris, too. However, I think Boris did 'scruffy' deliberately, in order to be seen as an ordinary bloke.

Fleurpepper Sat 15-Oct-22 10:28:30

fairfraise

I feel for woman politicians. Their dress is always open to comment! You don't get so much said about men's dress.

Totally agree. As much as I despair about LT's ability to govern- it has nothing to do with her dresses.

Happysexagenarian Sat 15-Oct-22 10:27:19

That should have said Theresa May!

vegansrock Sat 15-Oct-22 10:25:22

Yes I definitely comment on male politicians attire. Johnson looked like he hadn’t learned to dress himself. Truss could afford a classic Chanel suit or a British made Linton tweed equivalent couture number which would last.

ixion Sat 15-Oct-22 10:18:25

If this is today's 'look', I just wish it was around in my youth, when many a tearful dressmaking hour was spent trying to get inset sleeves to sit neatly and smoothly in the top of the armholes.
Always too much sleeve for the body...

Happysexagenarian Sat 15-Oct-22 10:08:05

I too think Nicola Sturgeon always looks smart and professional and comfortable in her clothes. Theresa sometimes dressed well but her posture was not good. Liz Truss clearly likes to show off her figure but sometimes her cleavage is a tad too low for 'work' clothes.

Chestnut Sat 15-Oct-22 10:06:40

DerbyshireLass

Coco Chanel said "dress shabbily and they remember the dress, dress impeccably and they remember the woman".

Ms Truss does not dress impeccably ........She never looks smart.

Someone in her position needs to be able to get dressed and then forget about her clothes and get on with the job in hand. In other words they need to be comfortable. She just doesn't look right or comfortable. Heels too high, her hair doesn't suit her and the dresses just don't hang right, probably due to the fabric. Her choices do nothing for her. She really needs to wear something more tailored. A structured jacket would lend an air of authority.

Chestnut......yes England was once famed for its textiles, especially cottons, linens, fine wools and tweeds. As my my name proudly announces I am from Derbyshire, traditionally part of an area at the heart of the textile industry. (Yorkshire, Lancashire, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire). All the mills and factories are now gone.

I used to do a lot of my clothes shopping at the factory shops. We had several factories nearby who made clothes for M&S, in the days when they sold good quality clothes. When they moved their manufacturing to the Far East and then Eastern Europe, that's when they lost their edge and went downhill.

I despair of the cheap nasty fabrics available now, they are just not the same quality as those that were made here. Even the so called premium brands are really shoddy and inferior compared to those made in the 20th century.

The last few years have seen standards really plummet. As far as quality is concerned it's a race to the bottom. Fast fashion has killed any notions of quality. And we are paying a shocking price with appalling working conditions, sweatshops, bonded labour (often children) and environmental devastation.

I love clothes and fashion and was at one time a very keen dressmaker. I studied art and fashion and interior design at university. Now I make a point of trying to buy preloved and vintage, partly for ethical reasons but tbh vintage clothing is far better quality than most high street offerings.

I have pure wool coats that are over 30 years old and are as pristine as the day they were made. Todays offerings just don't compare.

Thanks for that very interesting post DerbyshireLass. I knew we had a world-leading textile industry in the areas you mention but I wasn't sure if this was still going in the 1960s and 1970s. That's when I personally remember good quality fabrics being around, and probably made in England as I thought. Tragically, it is quantity not quality all the way now. In everything. ?

Grantanow Sat 15-Oct-22 10:03:45

Not only door handles but also hinges, letterboxes, numbers, nameplates, hooks for Christmas wreaths, spyholes, quasi-mediaeval studs, no hawkers and beware of the dog/cat/Truss signs.

Riverwalk Sat 15-Oct-22 09:52:48

Theoddbird

If it was a man would you have commented on what he was wearing? I get so annoyed by posts such as these.

This is the Style & Beauty forum so Truss's appearance is fair game IMO.

There's been plenty of comments on Bozo's scruffy look, Sunak's expensive trainers, Fabricant's wig etc.

It's a bit late for Truss but I think she should wear a jacket and look more professional like Von der Leyen, Lagarde, Clinton, Merkel, etc. I've never seen any of them trotting around in a dress when on official duty.

Nannapat1 Sat 15-Oct-22 09:44:33

As one who wears trousers 90% of the time I've never thought of it as 'dressing like a man'! I agree that trouser (pants) suits are more practical and usually look much better for female politicians.
I'd also agree that fabrics aren't what they once were, neither fabrics for clothing nor fabrics for household linen.

Lucca Sat 15-Oct-22 09:34:28

Theoddbird

If it was a man would you have commented on what he was wearing? I get so annoyed by posts such as these.

I get your point but yes I would ! Also sometimes it’s fun to just chat about clothes… I’m as worried as the next woman about the disaster being created but this is a bit of light relief

4allweknow Sat 15-Oct-22 09:32:24

The dresses seem to be very stretchy and clingy. Never see any creases across her lap usually seen after sitting. Think better underwear wouldn't go amiss, just don't like seeing everything jingling about. Doesn't seem to need a jacket outside highlighting the higher temperature in the south. On another note maybe northern areas need a higher energy allowance to cope with cooler weather!