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Do you not just synch from Apple Music?

In the Music app on your Mac, choose Music > Settings, click General, then select the Sync Library tickbox. If you don't see this option, sign in to Apple Music using your Apple ID. You must be an Apple Music subscriber to access your music on your other devices using Sync Library.

Then you can delete the track from your device and then download from the cloud when you want to listen.

Try with one track see if it works?

It went up a few months ago from 79p to 99p for enough room to fit a herd of elephants in

I think I will need to replace my payg iPhone SE, 5. It’s very old, and is limping along. I don’t want or need a new one and am happy with a newer old one. Someone in a shop I went into suggested a 10 £180, or should I go fir a bit newer than that. An 11 or the next one if they are better models, anyone have any thoughts on this? I really don’t have a clue.

Maybe am in the same position as you but despite paying 99 fir cloud still keep he tying messages my phone is full. I just have emails and photos. No music games videos or anything else.

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Silverlining48 - check your storage through Settings as above, and see what is taking up all the room. You can always delete photos just from the iPhone, whilst keeping them all in the cloud still (ie external storage). You will be able to access all your photos from the cloud any time you have internet access

I'm going to sound pretty dim here but hiw do you access things stored in the cloud? It's a mystery to me

I’m dim, too. It’s all beyond me. However, when my pad died on me earlier this year my new iPad was able to retrieve everything that was on it because it was on the cloud! It seemed to do it all by itself, thankfully!

silverlining48

I think I will need to replace my payg iPhone SE, 5. It’s very old, and is limping along. I don’t want or need a new one and am happy with a newer old one. Someone in a shop I went into suggested a 10 £180, or should I go fir a bit newer than that. An 11 or the next one if they are better models, anyone have any thoughts on this? I really don’t have a clue.

There have been three versions of the SE released 2016, 2020 and 2022. The SE is good if you like a small phone.

Mine's a 2016 purchased in 2017 and is still going strong. I had a new battery put in about six months ago for about £30 including labour. That's the only attention it has needed in six years and it gets a lot of use.

You can pick up reconditioned 2020s for under £150.00 and reconditioned 2022s for around £250.

Money Supermarket published this very favourable review of the 2022 SE:

www.moneysupermarket.com/mobile-phones/phone-reviews/iphone-se-2022/

Think mine would be a 2016 too caravan, I got it about 6 years ago. The battery is fine but I keep getting messages about it having no more space even though it’s only photos and emails on it.
I would quite like a slightly. larger one
and assumed a bit later model might be better given they have
more storage,

It sounds like you need to do some housekeeping.

Go to Settings, General, iPhone Storage. You should see an option to enable iCloud Photos which allows 5Gb of free data storage.

Email should not take up a lot of space. Go to your mail settings and see what you have synched. I have mine set to one month and it's only using 200Mb. You can set it to less - from one day to one month. You may have yours set to no limit which is storing more than you need to access on your phone assuming that you have another device that you also access emails on.

Now go back to iPhone storage and check what apps you have and what, if any, can be discarded.

I'm using 29Gb of 32Gb internal storage but it isn't affecting the performance of my phone,

Is yours a 16Gb? It should be more than enough if you store your photos in iCloud and don't use a lot of apps.

Thanks for that, I have done some of what you suggest already but will give the other advice a try too. Yes it’s 16 Gb and have used 15.5gb plus, so not s lot of space available,

I pay £0.99, used to be £0.79, for gigantic icloud storage. It's worth it to know that nothing is lost.

It's mostly pictures of dogs and sunrises and coffee but still.....

I pay 99p too. It’s surprising how quickly the number of photos mounts up, so it’s a worth it.

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Caravansera I'm sorry to be dim, but from what I can tell I am synching my tunes to the cloud, yet when I look at what is on there they are not showing up.

I'd happily delete them, as they are eating my phone storage, but as they are synched across devices I am scared that I will lose them if I delete. As I said, a lot have not been bought from Apple, but are backups of CDs. I'd like to just delete from my phone, as I have a lot of storage on my Mac.

I'm happy to store photos on there too, but I don't seem to have the option you describe upthread (see photo of iPhone storage).

I think these photos show the relevant information, but I can post more if not. If you can help I would be very grateful - it's so frustrating as I am usually quite capable with things like this.

Hmm. My guess is that you haven't turned on synch library on your iPhone. See here where it explains how to synch music from your Mac - your first screen shot - see steps 6, 7 and 8 and then synch on iPhone:

support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204926

There's a link at the bottom saying what to do if songs are missing. When you follow that link, the first thing it says is:

Make sure all of your devices have Sync Library turned on and signed in with the same Apple ID that you use with Apple Music.

Does that solve it?

There is no synch library option on my phone (iPhone 12).

I wonder if it is because I am using it via Family sharing? I think she has the Music subscription and mine is the TV one - either way, we each have one or the other and share them - might that explain it?

Thanks so much for your patience . I know how frustrating dealing with numpties can be.

Sorry - she is not the cat's mother, but my daughter . I edited my post and cut that bit out.

I don't subscribe to Apple Music so am working a tad in the dark here! (I synch ripped CDs or iTune purchases across my Mac and iPhone via Finder.)

If you go to your Apple Music app, do you not see a red circle icon with a person inside where you can sign in using your daughter's password?

Presumably you have done the Account > Upgrade to Family step described here:

support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/music/mus33f6a78c9/mac

I cloud storage now accounts for more carbon emissions than the airline industry
A single data unit uses the same amount of electricity that can power up to 50,000 homes
So recycling, using public transport, not flying is meaningless when billions of people are adding to the carbon problem using this service

A single data center can consume the equivalent electricity of 50,000 homes.

thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-staggering-ecological-impacts-of-computation-and-the-cloud/

There is no doubt that centralised data storage is hugely energy hungry not least the cost of cooling such vast machines. It’s the price we pay for a digital world demanding 24/7 access to data and services.

The UK government introduced a cloud first policy 10 years ago. Most government services, NGOs and major businesses use cloud storage.

Go to see a doctor - your NHS records are pulled from cloud storage, search Google, shop online, watch TV, pay an energy bill, buy a train ticket, insure the car, borrow a library book, access news and news archives, these and much much more - all using cloud storage.

Efforts have been made to site centres in cooler climates to take advantage of “free cooling” but then you have network signal latency. The further the data has to travel the longer it takes to get to its destination and people get irritable if data demands aren’t met almost instantaneously.

It’s a world we have been sucked into and have come to expect. These systems are very vulnerable to cyber attack in geo-political conflicts or just for the hell of it but what’s the alternative now?

Are you sure these e-mails or texts are from Apple?

I get them too, but as I do not use cloud storage it cannot be full, and when I checked the sender's e-mail address it was obviously a scam.

So don't send any money!

If you need more storage, download to a computer and store whatever it is you need on an external hard-drive.

Caravansera

I don't subscribe to Apple Music so am working a tad in the dark here! (I synch ripped CDs or iTune purchases across my Mac and iPhone via Finder.)

If you go to your Apple Music app, do you not see a red circle icon with a person inside where you can sign in using your daughter's password?

Presumably you have done the Account > Upgrade to Family step described here:

support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/music/mus33f6a78c9/mac

Thanks again. I will have a go later when I have both my phone and other devices handy.

Caravansera I was going to say that the cloud contributes massively to global warming too. Does anyone need to keep every email ever?

midgey

Caravansera I was going to say that the cloud contributes massively to global warming too. Does anyone need to keep every email ever?

No, but it's necessary to keep some in case the need arises to check something from several years ago, particularly as we are frequently encouraged to go paperless. I certainly keep copies of insurance documents and bills.

Personal storage isn't real the issue. Take Doodledog's example above. She has under 30Gb of music that she would like to put in cloud storage. At the moment, it takes up a tiny memory chip inside a small phone. Fair enough, a world population of 8 billion people doing the same thing would take up more space but even then, it would look insignificant besides the vast amount of government, NGO and corporate memory space needed so that governements, organisations and businesses can operate and so that individuals can have access 24/7 to everything that they now demand digitally.

For everybody who has shopped online today, booked a holiday, renewed their car insurance, checked their WhatsApp messages, watched TV and a myriad of other digital applications, including accessing this site via a web browser, they have contributed to the problem because the data as to be stored somewhere ready for retrieval when we demand it.

We aren't go to return to analog communcation unless terrorism knocks out our power systems or there's an apocalypse. The only answer is green energy and, as we know, a decarbonised power sector and net zero are political hot potatoes.

silverlining48. I think my iPhone is a 5 SE, with a small screen. I didn’t want a larger one at the time, as I like to put it in my back pocket, although that isn’t always a good idea when going to the loo! 😳 I’m thinking of getting an upgrade, but not sure whether to order on line. In fact, I’d happily attend a course to learn how to use the phone so as to get maximum use from it.

Oh me too Patsy. A course would be great.

I think I’ll make enquiries, it will help me get through the winter months, when I won’t be gardening!