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AI is ruining my enjoyment of the internet

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Jan-25 11:03:11

I enjoy looking at various animal videos and looking at images both historical and present day, but I have gradually come to realise that many are now no longer “real” but images produced by an AI algorithm. Now I can’t believe any of it, and see no point in trying to fact check it all.

That along with articles/books and music being produced leave aside the political stuff.

So what on earth is the point.

JaneJudge Sat 01-Feb-25 12:36:51

ok for eg. I have just put suelld response into it and it came back with this

The text conveys a strong emotional reaction, characterized by frustration and indignation. The use of the word "ridiculous" at the beginning sets a confrontational tone, indicating that the speaker strongly disagrees with the idea being discussed. The phrase “that is just not true” further emphasizes their conviction that the opposing viewpoint is fundamentally flawed.

The reference to the concept of "woke" being "corrupted" suggests a feeling of betrayal regarding its original meaning. The capitalization of "TRUE MEANING" conveys a sense of urgency and importance, indicating that the speaker feels passionately about the integrity of language and ideas. Using terms like "far right" and "Trimpists" adds a layer of political context, suggesting that the speaker views these groups as responsible for a distortion of meaning, which likely heightens their emotional stance.

The speaker's assertion that "certainly SOME books have been written along those lines" implies a defensive posture, reinforcing their belief that the discourse around these topics is overly simplistic. By stating, "I think most authors write/wrote about all sorts," they express a degree of frustration with what they perceive as a narrow interpretation of literary contributions.

There is also a sense of defiance in their claim that authors still enjoy freedom of speech, suggesting that the speaker is protective of intellectual diversity and wary of censorship. This appears to be a rallying cry to uphold the value of varied perspectives in literature. The frustration culminates in the assertion that there is "NOWHERE" to find an "absolute TRUTH," which signifies disillusionment with the idea of universally accepted notions in favor of subjective interpretations.

In summary, the emotional undertone of the text is one of exasperation combined with a passionate defense of free expression and a nuanced understanding of literature, underscoring the complexity of truth and belief in the context of societal dialogue.

rowyn Sat 01-Feb-25 12:36:45

That's reminded me. has anyone tried using Duck Duck something instead of Google?

JaneJudge Sat 01-Feb-25 12:34:32

I have found an AI app that is holding me hostage as I keep asking it questions

petra Sat 01-Feb-25 12:34:27

Landloper
Ai offers no benefit to me Wrong!!!
You are obviously unaware of what is happening in the field of medicine.
Are you aware that when you have a mammogram it will be looked at by an Ai program. Because of this tumours that can be missed by the human eye are picked up.

suelld Sat 01-Feb-25 12:26:40

fancythat

I dont know anything directly about this, but I do know that truth very much matters in life.

A few years ago I started keeping books that I may have passed on to people, as I want my grandchildren to know truths.

I went by the year 2014.
Anything published after that year[I did a best guess] is apt to be influenced by woke. Or worse.

Ridiculous! That is just not true. ‘Woke’ is a relatively new concept, where it’s TRUE MEANING of “awake to injustices, enlightened” has been corrupted by the far right and Trimpists , etc, to mean anything ‘liberal minded peoples’ like or tolerate is wrong! Certainly SOME books have been written along those lines, but I think most authors write/wrote about all sorts.
As they have always done. Certainly current events and politics may have influenced what has been written, and always with the authors point of view, but I think Authors are the one area where freedom of speech still holds true. There are vast numbers of genres within the book world so I have no idea whether you are talking fiction or non fiction and all the types in between. But NOWHERE will you find an absolute TRUTH. What you are talking about are books that reflect YOUR Beliefs and prejudices as Truths!

AnotherBirdLady Sat 01-Feb-25 12:11:45

I find most AI output crude and unconvincing. If you ask a question in your search i.e. use why, what etc, you may get an AI generated summary first. However you can click on its quoted sources (in the summary) to see where the information comes from, or just ignore it and scroll down to the results below the summary. Yes there is a lot of rubbish on the internet but equally some sources you can trust more, including the BBC. BBC Verify looks for evidence that something is true or not. It is this I try to weigh up, not whether or not it chimes with my particular world view.

ayse Sat 01-Feb-25 11:51:54

Lots of the commentary on UTube is A1 dominated. The subtitles are interesting as the can be miss spelt, not punctuated etc. Somuch of UTube is so believable but not so true.

For anyone who wants a different search engine try DuckDuckGo. They don’t track apparently.

Landloper Sat 01-Feb-25 11:41:31

Whitewavemark2

I enjoy looking at various animal videos and looking at images both historical and present day, but I have gradually come to realise that many are now no longer “real” but images produced by an AI algorithm. Now I can’t believe any of it, and see no point in trying to fact check it all.

That along with articles/books and music being produced leave aside the political stuff.

So what on earth is the point.

Indeed, AI offers little benefit to me and promises instead a good deal of harm. 'Fact checkers' have become discredited because they have been revealed to have political agendas that leads them to deny claims from other viewpoints as 'false' and validate viewpoints they agree with as 'true'. BBC Verify is a case in point. Anything that takes control and hands it over the state or corporations damages our independence. The internet promised to herald in a new era of freedom and debate. The opposite has been the case, and it has become a weapon in the hands of those powerful groups taking us into an new Dark Ages.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 30-Jan-25 17:32:31

Galaxy

If a novel was a 'good' novel and was produced by AI, does that mean it is no longer a good novel. I dont know what I feel about it to be honest.

Well, of course it can be a good novel if produced by AI

However,

What is and will always be missing is the human condition, and the ability to write about new and complex human experiences over a life time. So when writing a novel, the author brings with her a unique mind that AI can never (well at the moment) emulate.

petra Thu 30-Jan-25 17:26:15

The beginning of the end of the internet perhaps
Far from it. The internet is entering a whole new phase.
Very interesting episode of The Bottom line on Radio 4 today.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0027d74

fancythat Thu 30-Jan-25 17:14:25

There is no point, WW2 except that the whole pointlessness of it may be intentional. If people are fed unchecked factoids artificially collected and collated by robots for long enough, then pretty soon those who are searching for something to which they want to know the real answer will stop bothering to look

The beginning of the end of the internet perhaps?

Allira Thu 30-Jan-25 16:05:35

petra

Wyllow3
The new Google serch facility is tailored to each one of us individually.
This is where all that information we have handed to them over the years is coming into its own 😉

Oh dear, mine is really boring so what does that say if it is tailored to each one of us individually? 😯

Allira Thu 30-Jan-25 16:03:35

So what on earth is the point.

Every time I go on to Facebook, something pops up called Reels and Videos, mainly about the Royal Family or cats and babies.
I'm not a bit interested but from a quick glance the babies and cats videos look contrived so must be AI. They always get deleted but I can't stop them coming.

Wyllow3 Thu 30-Jan-25 15:38:10

On children books - happy to see - again as long as there is no heavy handed "point" being made, same sex mums and dads.

Wyllow3 Thu 30-Jan-25 15:32:56

fancythat

Wyllow3 -
the obvious thing that comes to mind is the all the genders things. Written even in childrens' books.
But I am sure there are other things besides.

I'v read grandchildren's books and haven't seen what you describe, but I am glad to see the inclusion in pictures of people of different race backgrounds, naturally appearing in the narrative without a "thing" being made. Ditto people in wheelchairs without it being "the point" and so on.

fancythat Thu 30-Jan-25 15:27:32

petra - I think my answers are very clear.
So I dont propose to keep debating them on this thread, ad infinitum.

Galaxy Thu 30-Jan-25 15:11:26

Yes I think that is what I feel, Whitewave mentioned books and music in her OP, and I wondered what difference it made ( quite a lot to the poor musicians and authors obviously) to our enjoyment.

petra Thu 30-Jan-25 15:08:46

Galaxy
If it’s a good novel it doesn’t matter if it’s written by a chimpanzee, it’s still good.

petra Thu 30-Jan-25 15:06:54

Fancythat
So your beef is with the gender identity terminology.
Or you have issues with the whole gender identity debate?

Galaxy Thu 30-Jan-25 15:04:34

If a novel was a 'good' novel and was produced by AI, does that mean it is no longer a good novel. I dont know what I feel about it to be honest.

petra Thu 30-Jan-25 15:01:30

fancythat

petra

Fancythat
But that is your truth as you see it. It might not be your grandchildren’s truth.
Btw. Woke originated in the 1940s. It was first penned by a black musician/ singer.

Truth is truth.

Else it is not truth.

Well truth as far as people knew it, pre about 2014,
I guess there may have been some non truths in books previous to that, but not widespread.

I don’t know whether to 😂 or 😥 at that bonkers reply.
I think I’ll plump for 😂

well truth as far as we knew it
I think you’ve backed yourself into a corner there.

fancythat Thu 30-Jan-25 14:55:32

Wyllow3 -
the obvious thing that comes to mind is the all the genders things. Written even in childrens' books.
But I am sure there are other things besides.

fancythat Thu 30-Jan-25 14:53:46

HousePlantQueen

fancythat

I dont know anything directly about this, but I do know that truth very much matters in life.

A few years ago I started keeping books that I may have passed on to people, as I want my grandchildren to know truths.

I went by the year 2014.
Anything published after that year[I did a best guess] is apt to be influenced by woke. Or worse.

what an extraordinary comment! Does this mean you don't read any fiction written since 2014? Or have I misunderstood?

I dont know if you have misunderstood or not.

I am not talking about fiction. Fiction is fiction, and I dont know about now, but previously anyway, there were not many people who tried to pretend otherwise.

fancythat Thu 30-Jan-25 14:51:47

petra

Fancythat
But that is your truth as you see it. It might not be your grandchildren’s truth.
Btw. Woke originated in the 1940s. It was first penned by a black musician/ singer.

Truth is truth.

Else it is not truth.

Well truth as far as people knew it, pre about 2014,
I guess there may have been some non truths in books previous to that, but not widespread.

Galaxy Thu 30-Jan-25 14:50:34

I have no idea if he is right or not of course grin