Prime and buying books for Kindle

I don’t see the connection between Prime and Kindle. If you can’t download the books to Kindle what is the point? We have Prime and use Kindles and haven’t had any notification of this. If we do, I will come back and let you know.

I think what you will not be able to do is load books onto a device which you could then share with other people . Prime has nothing to do with it but you will not be able to dowload books to a computer and keep them . They want no illegal sharing and for you to use an Amazon device .

OP has not provided a link but I found this from YouTuber CriminOlly:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMoCzeGnIss

YouTuber Jared Henderson provides more explanation:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwU5xkXj7Kw

What he makes clear at four minutes is that when you buy a Kinde book you are not buying the book but a licence to access the book. After all there must be a reason why buying a Kindle book is so much cheaper than buying a paper book and it isn't just to do with the printing cost. It's to do with the licence Amazon have with the owner of the title.

I came across this kind of thing with Sky some years ago when I had to switch from Sky+ to SkyQ in order to integrate Netflix and discovered that several of my favourite TV programmes that had been available on Sky+ were not available on SkyQ. I was told it was to do the different licencing agreements that Sky had between with the owners.

Public libraries have licences to provide free audiobooks via Borrowbox on the understanding that the borrower can only have access to the book for a short amount of time. You can get around this by downloading the book to an app such as Apple Books in order to keep it but it is a violation of the licence. When returning an e-audiobook you are instructed to remove all copies of the book from other devices and apps.

I suppose one argument about this is that if you do keep a downloaded copy of a book, you have to think about storage space. Digital books are byte-heavy so there will come a point where your hard disk is clogged and you have to start thinking about buying flash drives or Cloud storage just as you would additional bookcases when your paper book collection grows.

I would urge people to watch the whole Henderson video as he is more reasonable about the change and alternate ways to access ebooks in the future which are fairer to the author or rights owner.

You don't have to belong to Prime to purchase books for your Kindle so I don't quite understand.

If you have a Prime membership you can borrow certain promoted books through Prime but just a limited number, ten, I think but no more. You have to return one before you can borrow another, like a library.

It's because of a dispute between Apple, Amazon and Google, apparently.

It's Amazon which is making the change regarding e-books that have been purchased irrespective of whether someone has a Prime membership.

I saw the video too and agree with what everyone has said correcting the OP. It has nothing to do with Prime, just Amazon and Kindle.

The chappy said he had downloaded all of his Kindle books and stored them on flash drives or hard disks.I really don't see the point in this - is he really going to read those thousands of books ever again?

What surprised me was that Amazon can access the books you have already downloaded onto your Kindle(or other Amazon device such as Fire). They can replace a book with an updated version or delete them altogether apparently. However, I don't think any of the books I have on my Kindle will be affected by this, but if so, I probably won't notice.

As I read a lot (in the winter perhaps 4 or 5 books a week) I use Kindle Unlimited. I know it tends not to have current top sellers but I find plenty to read. It is £10 a month but if I was buying books I would spend more than that and I don't often re-read books. This means that I don't store books on my device and don't need to worry about space.

Most of the books I buy for my Kindle come from Amazon’s 99p offers. I read far too fast to pay more on a regular basis!

Witzend

Most of the books I buy for my Kindle come from Amazon’s 99p offers. I read far too fast to pay more on a regular basis!

I'm exactly the same!

I don’t know how that would work. One of the main reasons for having a kindle is to download several books for a holiday. If you have to read them online you won’t be able to read them on the beach or by the swimming pool etc. I think it is an important reason for having a kindle.

CriminOlly’s mistake is that he believes and expects to own the book and to be able to store it forever wherever he wants:

But Amazon’s terms and conditions are clear:

1. Kindle Content

Use of Kindle Content. Upon your purchase or access of Kindle Content and payment of any applicable fees (including applicable taxes), Amazon grants you a non-exclusive right to view, use, and display such Kindle Content (for Subscription Content only for as long as you remain an active member of the underlying membership or subscription program), solely through Kindle Software or as otherwise permitted as part of the Service, on the Supported Devices specified in the Manage Your Content and Devices section within Your Account (which may change from time to time), and solely for your personal, non-commercial use. Kindle Content is licensed, not sold, to you by Amazon. Amazon may include additional terms of use within Kindle Content. Those terms will also apply, but this Agreement will govern in the event of a conflict. Some Kindle Content, such as interactive or highly formatted content, may not be available to you on all Kindle Software

“Supported Device” means a mobile, computer or other supported electronic device on which you are authorised to operate a Kindle Software, including a Kindle e-reader. For more information on Supported Devices, please see here (https://www.amazon.co.uk/supporteddevices).

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?tag=gransnetforum-21&nodeId=201014950

... non-exclusive right to view, use and display …

I see nothing in there about storing or keeping forever - no different to access to e-books and e-audiobooks issued by a public library which we fund through out local taxes rather than pay fir directly.

This doesn't affect Kindle users who download books to their Kindle and read them on their Kindle.

Witzend

Most of the books I buy for my Kindle come from Amazon’s 99p offers. I read far too fast to pay more on a regular basis!

If you read more than 10 a month then look at Kindle Unlimited

Nandalot

I don’t know how that would work. One of the main reasons for having a kindle is to download several books for a holiday. If you have to read them online you won’t be able to read them on the beach or by the swimming pool etc. I think it is an important reason for having a kindle.

You can download them to a kindle you can no longer transfer them to another device.

DH and I can share a book and read it at the same time on our own kindles. If DH has read further than me it asks if I want to go to the furthest page read or stay on the one I am on .

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