Obese Passenger

Tried the 5:2 for four months, Jane. Lost one pound on each 'starve' day and put it straight back on over the next couple of eating days. Kept to around 1000 calories on the eating days. I did manage to loose about four pounds - but that's back on again. One pound a month. Most depressing. I'm just very economical to run!

Actually, I do like a cuddly man. I sat next to one on the flight back from Poland this week and he was quite charming. He was so obviously trying to hold himself so that he didn't impinge on my space that he must have been uncomfortable. I'd have just told him to lift up the armrest and relax and we could have cuddled up, had DH not been sitting on my other side He's such a spoilsport.

Aw Maggie, thats funny and proves my point. Big cuddly men should be seen as a bonus on a flight.

{smile]. I can do cuddly. But there are downsides, having been Cuddly for over 60 years, my lower joints are knackered, it's my left hip atm, which is why I am on here at silly o'clock, because I'm in too much pain to sleep, waiting for co-codemol to kick in.

Maggie, have you unblocked me ? I really want to apologise personally.

The bmi of 30 as obese does not appear to make any allowance for physical frame. I don't know whether it is my genes or as a result of my skeleton developing to support my weight, but I do have a large frame. Due to ill health in my late 20's I lost a lot of weight and looked gaunt, but I was still 13 stone, overweight.
My older brother was very similar, but unlike me was supreamly fit, but he was still big.

I had blood tests, blood pressure monitor for 24 hours and everything came back as normal. I had to see a Clinical Pharmacist and she said I could lose some weight. I was about a stone overweight. She said that older people (I'm nearly70) lose weight by lowering their calorie intake and not so much through exercise.

I thought this was a load of rubbish but as I'm phobic of anyone medical I just nodded and looked longingly at the door desperate to escape I went on my own diet, cutting out chocolate and crisps and continuing to walk as much as possible and that has worked.

I have unblocked you, Wobblybits, but there's no need to apologise. Your flowers are enough, now beautifully arranged in a cut glass vase (I wish ).

Anyway, I hope the drugs are working now, and you're sound asleep.

I'm 71, just a few weeks ago, I was very active in the garden, re-roofed our summer house and was generally very busy
, I was losing weight without any change of diet or other habits. Since I have become inactive that loss has stopped and I will need to limit my intake. My basic diet is a good one, plenty of fresh veg/fruit and not too much meat, hardly any sugar and cake/biscuits limited to afternoon with tea. I will need to cut out alcohol and cakes completely.

We went on a weight management course, which was designed to provide a long term regime. Unlike most diets it concentrated on portion size but with relatively large portions of carbs to fill you up and prevent snacking between meals. Just need to get back to it. My negative is fat, I do like my meats to have fat, otherwise, IMO, they are not worth eating. I will have to look at his 5:2 system

I have heard recently that protein makes you feel fuller than fat or sugar does, so maybe a bit more meat (lean) wouldn't go amiss, (WB)?

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No, instead of ** I am not really awake yet.

I agree. When doing my 2 fast days I found that protein based meals were much more sustaining than carb/veg ones. For breakfast on fast days 2 poached eggs and 2 tomatoes keep me feeling ok for the 9 hours until the next meal. Its really fine though. I don't feel headachy or faint. I just feel the benefit week on week.

I know the 5:2 doesn't suit everyone (it made my DD1 feel ill), but if it suits you it's relatively painless. I personally find it easier if I just get by on drinks until teatime, when I have a decent meal. When I tried starting with a light breakfast, the hunger pangs kicked in.

It does make you appreciate your food more as well. Waking up the day after a fast day for a nice breakfast feels so good!

There's a new thread on the go today with tips for losing weight.

I agree about protein filling you up.
I'm lucky because I don't put on weight easily, I think it's genetic, my parents, sister were all skinny . But I've had a few phases of being overweight and found that cheese is very filling.
I haven't got a sweet tooth either (apart from chocolate.) Prefer savoury.

Wobblybits We eat a healthy diet too but I find it difficult to lose weight and am worried now because I will be relatively inactive for a few weeks. I am sure that my tummy (sic) has got more wobbly in the past ten days.

Too much protein such as on the 5:2 diet makes me feel a bit sick but I am trying to strictly limit my intake of carbohydrates.
It's only in the last 10 or so years I have put on weight, I blame the medication !

I thought that drastically cutting down on food puts your body into 'starvation mode' and it hangs on to whatever fat it has, perhaps that has been disproved now.

WB if you like fat with your meals then low carbs high fat diet would suit you. My OH has lost 2 stone in 4 months, and I have rarely heard him complain he was hungry. There is another thread on GN about it.

I made that sound as though i like a dollop of fat on my plate --- not quiet, but I do like my beef with a marbling of fat running through it, give me rib rather than top side.

I suspect most diets work, simply because they make you think what you are putting in your mouth and your intake goes down.

I read that the body requires a certain amount of fats or oils otherwise the weight will not come off.

Wobblybits my OH is also tall, heavily built and spent years travelling the world for work. He has arthritis and though he does a lot of work in the garden, he can't walk very far because of joint pain. For years he was borderline obese and developed high BP, high cholesterol and pre-diabetes.
We have been low-carbing for two and a half tears and it has been brilliant. He has lost three stones and kept it off, come out of pre-diabetes and his BP and cholesterol are down.
He can still enjoy beef marbled with fat, dry wine, cheese and eggs and bacon. Our daily diet is high in veg, olive oil, fish, lean meat, salads, avocados etc.
We don't have cakes, puddings or excessive amounts of fruit. We don't have rice, bread, potatoes or pasta except on very rare occasions.
We don't count calories or exercise to lose weight.
We have no trouble sticking to the diet.
It works.

I'm just watching "Obesity - The Post Mortem"

No comment --- YET, only just started.

Wobbly - at the risk of boring you with "yet another diet" - may be the blood sugar diet would suit you? It is quite high protein, fairly high fat and low carb. Sounds a bit like what Mamie does.

I am very overweight (at least 6 stone), and have struggled for years. It has been the easiest diet for me, and works quickly for many - and best of all I didn't have the usual cravings. I am an emotional eater. It IS a different way of life, you have to prepare food yourself, and spend time getting right foods in. Good luck.

But it may be worth you trying for a few weeks? What have you got to lose by trying it? There is a very supportive thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/.

Having watched, I can only say OMG !!!!

The Post Mortem was a fab programme. So interesting. Unforgettable, and definitely an incentive to lose weight..