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Travel to France this Summer - new regs

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Kali2 Mon 17-May-21 13:16:26

UK passport holders visiting France as tourists or private visitors (staying with family or friends) for a period of less than 90 days do not at present require a visa.

However, they are required to have the following documentation and they may be required to show all or some of it on entry into France.

A valid passport issued less than 10 years before and valid for at least 3 months after the envisaged departure date;

Proof of accommodation covering the whole duration of the stay (hotel reservation and/or certificate of staying with a relative validated in the town hall (Attestation d'accueil));

Sufficient financial means. The means of subsistence shall be assessed according to the duration and purpose of the stay and by reference to the average prices for accommodation and food in the Member States;

Your return ticket or the financial means to acquire one at the envisaged return date;

You must have an insurance certificate covering all medical and hospital expenses for which you may be liable for the duration of your stay in France, as well as medical repatriation costs and expenses in the event of death.

With regard to 'sufficient funds' the following levels apply

If you are staying in a hotel, you will need to provide a hotel booking as well as a minimum amount per day of stay

65 euros per day of stay in the case of presentation of a hotel booking;

120 euros per day in the case of non-presentation of a hotel booking;

In the case of a partial hotel booking: 65 euros per day for the period covered by the booking and 120 euros per day for the remainder of the stay.

If you are hosted by an individual, you must provide a certificate (Attestation d'accueil) of staying with a relative validated in the town hall at the request of the person who invited you (note: at the border crossing you must also prove that you have, in addition to this certificate, a minimum amount per day of stay - this minimum amount is €32.50 per day).

Paperbackwriter Thu 27-May-21 14:14:48

Callistemon

I don't remember any of this pro-EU.

So why now?

Actually it could be quite difficult pre-EU. I remember going to France with a French friend who was living locally in the UK as an au pair. She needed to renew her passport so I went with her to Paris for a week & we stayed with her mother. Coming home, we were stopped at Dover and she was taken into custody until she could get the family she worked for on the phone to confirm that she was their responsibility. If they'd been out that evening, she was told she'd have been sent back. She was 19. We have lost so damn much with Brexit.

lemongrove Thu 27-May-21 14:18:13

Coming out of the EU was too important a decision to worry about future holidays in France. Neither could we take into account the British who chose to leave and make their homes in EU countries. We made the decision for those who live here. Am thinking it’s early days yet and things will settle down, it sounds as if France has made all sorts of red tape decisions which they are already backtracking on.
As others say, there are so many other countries all wanting to welcome back British tourists, that any country that makes things too difficult will lose out, as holiday makers vote with their feet.

Callistemon Thu 27-May-21 14:22:11

Well, I am confused
You're talking about a French girl coming into the UK perhaps very many years ago.
She was 19. Under 21, perhaps not considered an adult then?

I seemed to have no problems in France in the 1960s pre-EU and, apparently there is no problem as has now been established.

nanna8 Thu 27-May-21 14:25:42

Of course they do Callistemon (we’ve got a couple of those in the garden incidentally, lovely plants !)and they will check baggage to make sure there are no foodstuffs but they don’t take money off you unless you cop a fine. Hope you can make it here again one day when they open up. This time it was too soon. We all knew it but politicians don’t care what the populace think.

Callistemon Thu 27-May-21 14:34:14

We can't wait, nanna8
Although I know we have to!

Callistemon Thu 27-May-21 14:35:37

Ps I have one here too and it seems to have overwinter successfully and about to flower. The bees love them.

Apologies to everyone - digression from topic.

vegansrock Thu 27-May-21 14:40:59

It’s not just tourists there are hundreds of thousands of Brits living in France all have family, friends etc who will visit.

MawBe Thu 27-May-21 15:02:29

vegansrock

It’s not just tourists there are hundreds of thousands of Brits living in France all have family, friends etc who will visit.

“Hundreds of thousands” ?
All at once?

Il ne faut pas exagérer

halfpint1 Thu 27-May-21 15:30:45

148 000 Britanniques résident en France, notamment dans les territoires peu denses de l’Ouest

copied from the French National Bureau of statistics
INSEE

I'm sure if France had a growing number of new variant
cases , the Government might see it prudent to prohibit or
restrict French/Europeans from entering, oh hang on there
they do

halfpint1 Thu 27-May-21 15:31:25

sorry I meant the British Government restricting visitors

Mamie Thu 27-May-21 15:40:17

It now looks as if the attestation d'acceuil to stay in a private home might not be needed if you have proof of income to give you 120€ a day for the duration of your stay. It is not clear yet and until we have clarification from the French and British Embassies it can neither be confirmed or denied.
The information in the OP is taken from the regulations for third country nationals and is correct.
It does not apply to Australians etc because they have visas and British visitors are not required to have visas.
This rule about the change in status to third country nationals since Brexit. It has not been dreamt up to annoy the British.

Welshwife Thu 27-May-21 15:47:46

The cost of visiting France looks like being a Schengen wide cost so may well affect Spain and Portugal etc. Just as when you visit USA you need to go to the Homeland Security site and fill in a form and pay a fee so it looks like it will come in for Europe and also U.K. If the content of the articles is read it becomes clearer. The fee is not very high and lasts a year or so - the US one was for two years the last time I got ours.
When I went to OZ I needed a visa in my passport and needed to give names and addresses of where I was staying etc - so all very similar.
I saw that the Mairie Attestation was not needed this year at least - but it has been needed previously by non Europeans etc.and probably still is.
It is great to see how quick people are to jump on the France bashing bandwagon without really checking facts. For the LePen lovers I read yesterday that she and the FN are horrified at how Brexit is panning out and have turned turtle deciding it is not a good way to suggest France goes.
I think next years elections are likely to see Barnier causing a bit of a stir.

MerylStreep Thu 27-May-21 15:49:09

Paperbackwriter
You quote one incident. I can’t count how many trips I made to the France, Holland, Belgium, Italy, Spain, before we went into the EEC

Ellianne Thu 27-May-21 15:56:05

A visa card is a simple way of saying you have enough funds for your stay.

Welshwife Thu 27-May-21 16:05:46

Exactly Ellianne.
I think it will all pan out quite OK unless Ms Patel can think of another wheeze to try and stop EU citizens from visiting U.K.

Petera Thu 27-May-21 16:12:57

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vegansrock Thu 27-May-21 16:20:31

Someone’s not heard of the “hostile environment”.

lemongrove Thu 27-May-21 17:27:41

What LePen lovers Welshwife ? I haven’t seen any mention of her or her Party on this thread, so why say it I wonder.

It seems that visitors from the UK who are staying with family in France are affected more than tourists staying in hotels.

lemongrove Thu 27-May-21 17:28:38

MerylStreep

Paperbackwriter
You quote one incident. I can’t count how many trips I made to the France, Holland, Belgium, Italy, Spain, before we went into the EEC

Me too, without any problems.

Kali2 Thu 27-May-21 17:35:12

lemongrove says ''As others say, there are so many other countries all wanting to welcome back British tourists, that any country that makes things too difficult will lose out, as holiday makers vote with their feet.''

not sure how well you have been following this thread, but the information given in the OP, which was all over the Internet and Connexion newspaper and site, seems to have been innacurate. In the meantime, the UK (well Ms PP) has decided to actually do this for EU visitors. Which is why I wrote that... as said above by lemongrove, holiday makers will vote with their feet, especially as the UK's reputation has taken a real hit recently, and stories about EU visitors being arrested and incarcerated at border, have gone round the Internet and the EU Press.

Callistemon Thu 27-May-21 17:44:58

Which is why I wrote that... as said above by lemongrove, holiday makers will vote with their feet, especially as the UK's reputation has taken a real hit recently, and stories about EU visitors being arrested and incarcerated at border, have gone round the Internet and the EU Press.

Is that fake news too, though?

I never trust anything I read on GN or other social media without checking.

This thread is proof of that.

lemongrove Thu 27-May-21 17:47:27

?
Me neither Callistemon sometimes packets of salt are needed on GN.

Pinkrinse Thu 27-May-21 18:21:12

you also now have to quarantine for 10 days!

MawBe Thu 27-May-21 18:28:31

Never having heard of Connexion, I googled it and was interested to learn the following:

The Connexion French News and Views in English
French daily news headlines and information for residents, second homeowners and visitors in France.

Not forming part of its target readership I wonder what its value is, particularly if the veracity of its pronouncements is so suspect.
A bit like some of the online version of some tabloids perhaps?
Wonder why you bother with it Kali2.
I think it was Mamie who does live in France who said “I will have to see it somewhere other than The Connexion before I believe it! “

Ellianne Thu 27-May-21 18:38:26

Mawbe, Connexion was certainly around when I lived in France 20 or so years ago. It used to be a bit like a useful idiots' guide (in English) to living in the country and had lots of adverts for translators, builders and removal companies. Many friends still rely on it for their information but I would agree, its accuracy made need checking.
My DH was a fan as he didn't read French.