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mokryna Wed 06-Oct-21 08:13:42

I haven’t visited the UK since Brexit/covid and I would appreciate suggestions from recent travelers before I book.
Does the French securite sociale cover the medical charges I could incur in the UK or I should buy an extra as if I was traveling to Australia or US (over 71)?
Could someone recommend a company to book ‘the second day test’.
Do I have to take a test before leaving France?
Do I have to take another in England before leaving for France?
Thank you for your help, the UKgov has so much information that my eyes glaze over after a few minutes.

Josianne Thu 07-Oct-21 07:30:34

sodapop

Not free Josianne if you have an S1 you are a British tax payer who has worked in UK and paid NI etc.

Yes, that is true sodapop.
What I kind of meant by "free" is that when attending UK A & E as a foreigner you don't have to produce a cheque on the spot to get seen. When accompanying Brits abroad to Urgences I have nearly always had to go into an office and help do the financial paperwork first as well as pay the consultation. The only times they didn't have to pay was where it was babies or children. But this was about 15 years or more ago.

JackyB Thu 07-Oct-21 07:42:02

This all sounds so complicated. A friend of mine is just heading over this week to see her family. I shall wait and see what she has to say. I have not plans to go to the UK yet, but hope to next year. I want to go with my DS1 to scatter my mother's ashes. He was in America when she died in July 2019 and couldn't get to the funeral.

I have worked almost my entire working life in Germany, and get my pension here. The short time I worked in the UK as a legal secretary before moving abroad I only earned a scandalously tiny amount and am not eligible to get anything from the DWP.

So funny about the hiatus hernia: I was involved in a very serious accident when I was in the UK 2 years ago and was taken to hospital (I was fine but as they offered I thought it was sensible to check for any hidden injuries) and the scan showed up a hiatus hernia (which I must have had for several years!)

I shall come back to you next week when my friend has been there and back to let you know the answers to the OP questions. She is not retired, however, so can only comment re the Civic testing.

JackyB Thu 07-Oct-21 07:42:58

Doh! "Covid" not "Civic"

Josianne Thu 07-Oct-21 07:56:40

Interesting JackyB.
Did they give you a copy of the scan on CD to take away for further investigation? I think you can request it, but then the German gastroenterologist would probably want to start all over again anyway.

Josianne Thu 07-Oct-21 07:57:55

Jacky I hope you get to scatter your mother's ashes with your son next year.

Lincslass Thu 07-Oct-21 08:06:44

Family from EU visited me, they arranged PCR test arranged from Boots, before flying, the obvious choice, had to have proof of double vaccination, and proof of residency in country they live in. Test done on 2nd day, otherwise normal holiday. No test required by host country before flying home. No problems at all.

Urmstongran Thu 07-Oct-21 08:21:52

It’s all a bit of a nonsense though over here isn’t it? At least in Spain we had to go into a pharmacy with our passports as proof for our pre-flight rapid antigen tests.

Here once home? A joke.

We paid £30 each for Day 2 tests. We did them and sent them off but never heard back. No even ‘negativo’ text as in Spain.

As many of our friends have said what’s to stop people pushing the stick up someone else’s nose over here, who haven’t left the country! No checks at all,

frenchie Thu 07-Oct-21 12:04:48

Arrived in UK from France on Monday, a year after our last visit.
We didn’t have to have a test before leaving.
Our daughter booked our day 2 tests, to be done once in UK. She also did all the paperwork for us!
When we got to border controls, on the French side, DH with British passport, had to saw his french residency card. Then on the British side, I, with French passport, was asked why I was coming over and for how long.
P&O were the one checking our vaccination passes and our locator forms, plus the proof of our day 2 tests.
And of course our did’s french passport.
Luckily the port wasn’t busy!!!

frenchie Thu 07-Oct-21 12:05:29

Dog!

MaggsMcG Thu 07-Oct-21 12:14:05

I suggest you concentrate firstly on what you need to get in. Although if I were you I'd stay away it's still not safe. Then when you've sorted that out check what France wants you to do to get back. Do it all before you even book the flights.

harrigran Thu 07-Oct-21 12:27:44

DD has been back from Brussels twice this year, lots of tests and vaccination certificates plus quarantine. She would not fly, she travels by Eurostar and has found there to be only two or three others in the carriage which also makes it easier for her to work throughout the journey.
Covid tests were more expensive than the train ticket.

frenchie Thu 07-Oct-21 13:44:17

I forgot to say nothing needed to get back to France at the moment!

4allweknow Thu 07-Oct-21 13:49:38

I can never understand the access to NHS by anyone who is not a permanent resident in UK. In the far east try and get access for even an accident without showing your insurance provision/financial info as in the USA financial details must be provided before being seen by any medic. I am aware of a 28 year old female from Poland who has lived in UK for 3 years, doesn't work - 2 young children. On a visit home to Poland she developed problems requiring her gall bladder to be removed. As she lived in UK all hospital costs were charged to UK NHS. Why is UK different on how residency and NHS is treated?

Welshwife Thu 07-Oct-21 15:03:44

We live in France and are just at the end of a five week stay with various members of our family. There was more paperwork coming into U.K. but we had our Covid passports and our test results etc - done at a local chemist with a ten minute wait for results. As we were visiting Wales I booked the one official test company for the day two test - it is actually the NHS but using an intermediary.
I had a little incident while I was here and needed to visit A+E - as I am a U.K. pensioner I am able to access the facilities free of charge and also have planned treatment if I wish. This is because I paid into system for over 40 years and as it happens am registered for tax still on part of my pension - the other part assessed and taxed in France. I hope that information helps Josianne.
I have booked our return trip back and no tests required but the declaration of honour forms which are downloaded from I think the ministry of the interior site.
We have loved our time with family we had not seen since Dec 2019 - I am sad to leave them and hope it will not be too long before we are able to return.

Josianne Thu 07-Oct-21 15:26:04

Yes, thank you Ww, sodapop explained earlier. I am not yet a UK pensioner. I worked in France for several years, had a Carte Vitale, but I don't think I will hold my breath for free treatment if I am taken ill on holiday in France!

Welshwife Thu 07-Oct-21 15:30:56

There are certain conditions which are treated free in France whether or not you hold a CV - a heart attack or road accident are two examples you might encounter whilst on a visit and you will not need to flash a cheque book before gaining access to treatment.!

JackyB Thu 07-Oct-21 15:42:58

As for getting free treatment in the UK, my DS told me an American friend of his had had to go into hospital when he was visiting the UK. He offered to pay but they told him they couldn't be bothered with the paperwork and to forget it.

After the accident (see above) I was taken in an ambulance to a hospital. I had a scan and X ray which is probably not cheap. I didn't have my NI number on me, but they weren't bothered. I was given a written report to take back to my doctor here in Germany (thank you for asking Josianne).

sodapop Thu 07-Oct-21 16:43:48

There is going to be a charge for visiting Urgences in France. I think it's €18. No charge if you are admitted to hospital from Urgences.

Gabrielle56 Thu 07-Oct-21 17:26:22

mokryna

? I will fly this time as it will be a short trip but I was thinking of driving over as the roads wouldn’t be so cluttered with HGV.

Ha ha! Think again you don't actually believe all the rubbish in the press?! There's plenty of HGV traffic, this is UK not backofbeyond! How long have you been living in a cave?!.?

Gabrielle56 Thu 07-Oct-21 17:29:12

Stop asking amateurs on a gossip site! Go onto the official gov site and use your brain to get the correct and legally required low down! Honestly

mokryna Thu 07-Oct-21 17:32:38

I think I will go to the SSu office to check. I have a very small English pension, before Brexit I was given treatment in a walk in centre and a doctor’s surgery and although I offered to pay they refused but paid or not for medicine, depending on the pharmacy. English dental treatment, I paid for and was refunded in euros when I got home.

mokryna Thu 07-Oct-21 17:34:12

Thank you gabrielle56 for you kind help.

railman Thu 07-Oct-21 18:03:50

This is an interesting post.

You say that if you travel from France to UK on holiday, any medical costs incurred on a visit to the NHS are covered by the French health system/government? Is that correct?

As a follow up, if I travel to France and need medical treatment at an A&E in say Dijon, are this costs covered by the UK NHS/government?

Welshwife Thu 07-Oct-21 18:28:39

you may well pay a fee but should also be given a brown form. which is likely to be partially filled in, complete it and send to the NHS and you will be refunded.

Welshwife Thu 07-Oct-21 18:36:57

I should have read your post again railman - U.K. pensioners in France are covered by the NHS anyway so on any trip to U.K. the NHS still cover you.
Those Brits of working age in the French system are a different kettle of fish and the advice is to have travel insurance. The old EHIC cards were valid for emergency treatment but things may have changed since Brexit.