Gransnet forums

Travel

European Brits who have visited UK

(60 Posts)
mokryna Wed 06-Oct-21 08:13:42

I haven’t visited the UK since Brexit/covid and I would appreciate suggestions from recent travelers before I book.
Does the French securite sociale cover the medical charges I could incur in the UK or I should buy an extra as if I was traveling to Australia or US (over 71)?
Could someone recommend a company to book ‘the second day test’.
Do I have to take a test before leaving France?
Do I have to take another in England before leaving for France?
Thank you for your help, the UKgov has so much information that my eyes glaze over after a few minutes.

mokryna Fri 08-Oct-21 16:19:45

welshwife and mamie I went to the SSu office and they told me that my carte EDA maladie will not cover me in UK.
I will get some extra cover from a private insurance. I have just heard that I may not have to book an expensive UK PCR test also. Thank you for your help.

Annana Fri 08-Oct-21 11:25:28

Re Gabrielle 56, I’d just like to comment that it is NOT bad asking for advice based on experience because when in July I relied solely on the official gov site , I ended paying over £300 for PCR tests instead of 1/2 that price on personal recommendation!

Annana Fri 08-Oct-21 07:30:45

Hi, 2 weeks ago, I drove from Germany and went over from Calais by PO ferries with a Flexiticket which allows a 4 hr period : earlier or later than designated time. Even if vaccinated one had to show proof of a Lateral flow test and since mine was in German rather than the required Fr or English, you could do this at the port for 30€. ( 4 weeks previously the German proof had been accepted !) Before travel, I had to pre book my day2 test ( I did Boots) and the Passenger Locator form through the GovUk/travel site ( which no-one ever checked, but…
Coming back to France , you don’t need to test if vaccinated although one still has to fill in some form from the same gov site : Déclaration de L‘Honneur or something- where you pledge that as far as you know, you don‘t have the dreaded disease, However, when talking with the Very few people on the ferry, none had done or even knew about this form !
( If for any reason there are changes and you need to do a test in England - not the day 2 one, use the C19 testing by Cerulean Health. Cheap and so efficient.)
Really, nothing to worry about, so enjoy .
Anna

Mamie Fri 08-Oct-21 05:29:18

Yes we have got the special-for-us DWP issued EHICs Welshwife.
I take a copy of my S1 when in the UK, but the overseas health care team also said that a hospital could just ring them for confirmation in an emergency.

Welshwife Thu 07-Oct-21 22:11:31

That is the current state Mamie - I think the new EHIC card is still issued to U.K. pensioners. I have needed to use A+E whilst here this trip and did say I lived in France but was not asked to produce anything to prove my entitlement. I think that it is your S1 which may be needed in future.

maddyone Thu 07-Oct-21 21:59:30

I’ve just returned from Greece. I needed a Lateral Flow in order to fly home, but I’m fairly certain that now it’s not needed if you’re fully vaccinated, but you do need to book a PCR test to take two days after your arrival in England. As for travelling back to France, you will need to look on the French government travel site for advice as to what you may need to do, if anything.

Mamie Thu 07-Oct-21 18:56:13

Sorry welshwife hadn't seen your follow-up post. I think that existing EHIC cards are still valid and then there is the GHIC card.
www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-residents-visiting-the-eueea-and-switzerland-healthcare

Mamie Thu 07-Oct-21 18:42:31

Is that still the case now Brexit has happened WW?
railman Those of us Brits who were legally resident in France (and other EU countries) before the end of 2020 and are in receipt of the UK state pension are entitled to treatment in the UK because the UK is deemed our "competent state". A sum is also paid by them to our country of residence for our health cover here. This is a right that came from EU membership and is protected for us by the Withdrawal Agreement.
As far as I know it no longer applies to new residents.

mokryna Thu 07-Oct-21 18:41:16

Sort of yes. Firstly, it was before Brexit which would have also applied for you railman, or before Dec 2018, I think. It’s been such a long time I haven’t been back because of covid.
I did offer to pay to see a doctor but it was refused. Medicine depended on the pharmacy and then I claimed back on my French insurances.
I am a Brit (with very small UK pension) living in France under the French government system plus of course, run of the mill, private.
I was just asking if anyone in my position had a very recent experience going to the UK. I’ll go to the necessary French office tomorrow.

Welshwife Thu 07-Oct-21 18:36:57

I should have read your post again railman - U.K. pensioners in France are covered by the NHS anyway so on any trip to U.K. the NHS still cover you.
Those Brits of working age in the French system are a different kettle of fish and the advice is to have travel insurance. The old EHIC cards were valid for emergency treatment but things may have changed since Brexit.

Welshwife Thu 07-Oct-21 18:28:39

you may well pay a fee but should also be given a brown form. which is likely to be partially filled in, complete it and send to the NHS and you will be refunded.

railman Thu 07-Oct-21 18:03:50

This is an interesting post.

You say that if you travel from France to UK on holiday, any medical costs incurred on a visit to the NHS are covered by the French health system/government? Is that correct?

As a follow up, if I travel to France and need medical treatment at an A&E in say Dijon, are this costs covered by the UK NHS/government?

mokryna Thu 07-Oct-21 17:34:12

Thank you gabrielle56 for you kind help.

mokryna Thu 07-Oct-21 17:32:38

I think I will go to the SSu office to check. I have a very small English pension, before Brexit I was given treatment in a walk in centre and a doctor’s surgery and although I offered to pay they refused but paid or not for medicine, depending on the pharmacy. English dental treatment, I paid for and was refunded in euros when I got home.

Gabrielle56 Thu 07-Oct-21 17:29:12

Stop asking amateurs on a gossip site! Go onto the official gov site and use your brain to get the correct and legally required low down! Honestly

Gabrielle56 Thu 07-Oct-21 17:26:22

mokryna

? I will fly this time as it will be a short trip but I was thinking of driving over as the roads wouldn’t be so cluttered with HGV.

Ha ha! Think again you don't actually believe all the rubbish in the press?! There's plenty of HGV traffic, this is UK not backofbeyond! How long have you been living in a cave?!.?

sodapop Thu 07-Oct-21 16:43:48

There is going to be a charge for visiting Urgences in France. I think it's €18. No charge if you are admitted to hospital from Urgences.

JackyB Thu 07-Oct-21 15:42:58

As for getting free treatment in the UK, my DS told me an American friend of his had had to go into hospital when he was visiting the UK. He offered to pay but they told him they couldn't be bothered with the paperwork and to forget it.

After the accident (see above) I was taken in an ambulance to a hospital. I had a scan and X ray which is probably not cheap. I didn't have my NI number on me, but they weren't bothered. I was given a written report to take back to my doctor here in Germany (thank you for asking Josianne).

Welshwife Thu 07-Oct-21 15:30:56

There are certain conditions which are treated free in France whether or not you hold a CV - a heart attack or road accident are two examples you might encounter whilst on a visit and you will not need to flash a cheque book before gaining access to treatment.!

Josianne Thu 07-Oct-21 15:26:04

Yes, thank you Ww, sodapop explained earlier. I am not yet a UK pensioner. I worked in France for several years, had a Carte Vitale, but I don't think I will hold my breath for free treatment if I am taken ill on holiday in France!

Welshwife Thu 07-Oct-21 15:03:44

We live in France and are just at the end of a five week stay with various members of our family. There was more paperwork coming into U.K. but we had our Covid passports and our test results etc - done at a local chemist with a ten minute wait for results. As we were visiting Wales I booked the one official test company for the day two test - it is actually the NHS but using an intermediary.
I had a little incident while I was here and needed to visit A+E - as I am a U.K. pensioner I am able to access the facilities free of charge and also have planned treatment if I wish. This is because I paid into system for over 40 years and as it happens am registered for tax still on part of my pension - the other part assessed and taxed in France. I hope that information helps Josianne.
I have booked our return trip back and no tests required but the declaration of honour forms which are downloaded from I think the ministry of the interior site.
We have loved our time with family we had not seen since Dec 2019 - I am sad to leave them and hope it will not be too long before we are able to return.

4allweknow Thu 07-Oct-21 13:49:38

I can never understand the access to NHS by anyone who is not a permanent resident in UK. In the far east try and get access for even an accident without showing your insurance provision/financial info as in the USA financial details must be provided before being seen by any medic. I am aware of a 28 year old female from Poland who has lived in UK for 3 years, doesn't work - 2 young children. On a visit home to Poland she developed problems requiring her gall bladder to be removed. As she lived in UK all hospital costs were charged to UK NHS. Why is UK different on how residency and NHS is treated?

frenchie Thu 07-Oct-21 13:44:17

I forgot to say nothing needed to get back to France at the moment!

harrigran Thu 07-Oct-21 12:27:44

DD has been back from Brussels twice this year, lots of tests and vaccination certificates plus quarantine. She would not fly, she travels by Eurostar and has found there to be only two or three others in the carriage which also makes it easier for her to work throughout the journey.
Covid tests were more expensive than the train ticket.

MaggsMcG Thu 07-Oct-21 12:14:05

I suggest you concentrate firstly on what you need to get in. Although if I were you I'd stay away it's still not safe. Then when you've sorted that out check what France wants you to do to get back. Do it all before you even book the flights.