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Afraid to be alone with your thoughts?

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biglouis Tue 25-Jul-23 12:10:24

I saw a news item on the BBC website that more people are choosing to travel alone.

One of the recommendations was to become used to "being alone with your thoughts" as if this were some dreadful ordeal. Do you think that the current obsessions for "keeping in touch" and "not missing out" are because people lack the capacity to entertain themselves when they are alone?

AGAA4 Wed 26-Jul-23 14:52:42

I think we all have that inner voice that likes to remind us of bad memories. I have learned to ignore it and swap to happier thoughts.
I love spending some time with family and friends but am happy on my own and don't crave company at all.

MillieBoris Wed 26-Jul-23 15:01:21

Great saying ….Solitude is good to seek but not to have

Doodledog Wed 26-Jul-23 15:10:05

I wonder if it meant that traveling alone means that you have no-one to share things with. I've never done it. I enjoy being able to say 'have you seen that?' or 'do you fancy doing X or Y?' and sharing the experience. If my circumstances change, I wouldn't rule it out, but would probably prefer to go on a special 'singles' holiday, so that there would be others looking for someone to talk to, even just for a while.

My son used to like traveling alone before he was married though. He enjoyed the freedom from having to include others in his plans. He did a lot of hosteling where he could team up with people for the day and move on tomorrow. He always goes with DIL now though.

Anniel Wed 26-Jul-23 15:22:29

Bijou, although our lives differ because I live with my son, I am sometimes alone all day as he goes out out for dinner about twice a week. What is interesting is that now I have no enthusiasm to travel. Severe going to Australia next year but I willl not go as many friends and my parents and sister have all died. I like being alone listening to radio, setting up a bedroom which is now my office, dealing with my two dogs etc, I watch TV at night. If I was alone all day and night for life, then seeing someone even for a half hour would be welcome.

polnan Wed 26-Jul-23 16:16:40

oh gosh, can you sort me out, gently please?
I am elderly, recently acquired arthritis, so not so active, ie. short walks and gardening, really difficult. dh died just before covid hit, I had been his carer for some years. long marriage, happy.
since the lockdowns stopped I have changed , I think, I get out every other day, mostly, meet with friends, as soon as I come home, ugh! mostly do not like it, go down in spirits, I can cope on my own, but mostly I feel,, bereft? can I possibly be grieving after nearly 4 years? I don`t understand me.. I don`t want to go on holidays, ie. no interest, I have a small car, but don`t like driving too far,, as I said, elderly.

I worry about the state of the world, don`t care for all this change.. got a cat, indoor mostly, so miss having a dog though, I think companionship is what I miss/want. someone to really share "stuff" with,, friends I have at local church etc, good to go out for a meal with , but not sharing thoughts etc.

so why am I sad so much of the time...

foxie48 Wed 26-Jul-23 16:39:40

I love having people to stay and have a good set of friends that I meet regularly but I need time on my own. I love walking the dog on my own, gardening, painting etc on my own as I can escape into my own world. Sometimes I do think about sad things, we all have things in our life we would have done differently or better but I find thinking about them is helpful as in the past I've tended to block them out. Perhaps I'm going through my "resolution" stage ie coming to terms with my life's ups and downs. I would travel on my own as I'm quite independent. fwiw DD is on her way home from several weeks solo travelling round Northern Europe, we can't wait to see each other but we couldn't live in each other's pocket.

eddiecat78 Wed 26-Jul-23 17:01:22

I have an acquaintance who once admitted that she can't cope without company - and she drives the rest of us mad because she tags along whenever she hears that something is happening - invited or not! She even attended my father's funeral despite having never met him - probably because she had nothing else to do that day.

Polly7 Wed 26-Jul-23 17:11:01

It's very sad to feel isolated or alone I have sometimes I've lived alone 23 yrs but other times I'm happy in my own bubble so I wonder if it's chemical dips that cause sadness for no particular reason
I'm convinced by seeing so much sadness and badness on tv doesn't support you at all especially if take it to bed with you! Imagine if every news or channel was uplifting, sounds good

MadeInYorkshire Wed 26-Jul-23 17:14:09

Hetty58

The more horror we've seen, the more difficult it is. I enjoy my own company, but many don't, as they need company and distraction to get through each day.

Yes, I am like that, and I don't have it - I do have several things which I cold do, BUT since the death of my daughter, I really do not have the motivation to do anything at all now. I used to paint furniture, decorate etc but now I am disabled, I can no longer manage much without being totally exhausted, in dreadful pain and nauseated. I cannot afford to get anyone in to do anything, so am forever waiting for someone to have time to help me - which is demoralising in itself, and weeks or months go by and nothing has changed, so I am living in a s**thole just getting more and more depressed and more alone with my thoughts of guilt around her death.

People have promised the earth (SW, Social Prescriber, MH nurse) but nothing happens at all, so I am lonely, anxious and depressed. I wouldn't have minded travelling alone in days gone by, had I the money, but I can't manage any of that now, can't even manage to sleep in a bed, so wouldn't be able to sleep, and would end up just sitting in a cafe waiting for everyone to come back from sightseeing tours etc, not much fun at all!

0ddOne Thu 27-Jul-23 00:03:39

I live alone (apart from my dog), by choice. I'm neurodivergent and need my space (as is, and does, my partner, and we discovered that living together was a recipe for disaster! Lol!). I'm also very happy (and often much prefer) going places on my own and holidaying alone. However, I can't be alone with my thoughts. No matter where I am, I can't be unoccupied. I always have to be doing something, even if it's just reading a book/magazine or solving a crossword. Even when I lay down to sleep I have to listen to ASMR videos and do a puzzle (or 5), until sleep overtakes. If my thoughts are left to their own devices, to wander unchecked, they'll take me to some very dark places. So, to prevent that, I keep my mind busy. I still prefer my own company though! 🤦‍♂️

Whitewavemark2 Thu 27-Jul-23 07:26:11

I’m another who needs solitude. It somehow allows me time to recharge and relax.

MayBee70 Thu 27-Jul-23 11:33:31

0ddOne

I live alone (apart from my dog), by choice. I'm neurodivergent and need my space (as is, and does, my partner, and we discovered that living together was a recipe for disaster! Lol!). I'm also very happy (and often much prefer) going places on my own and holidaying alone. However, I can't be alone with my thoughts. No matter where I am, I can't be unoccupied. I always have to be doing something, even if it's just reading a book/magazine or solving a crossword. Even when I lay down to sleep I have to listen to ASMR videos and do a puzzle (or 5), until sleep overtakes. If my thoughts are left to their own devices, to wander unchecked, they'll take me to some very dark places. So, to prevent that, I keep my mind busy. I still prefer my own company though! 🤦‍♂️

I’m the same. I don’t live with my partner but, because of the pandemic we did end up being together 24/7. I now can’t seem to get back having time to myself and I’m finding it very difficult. I’m not very good at being assertive. Having said that, when I was totally on my own when my husband left I used to go from Friday afternoon to Monday morning without speaking to a soul and that made me realise how crippling loneliness can be. One weekend I actually phoned the Samaritans and said ‘ I’m not suicidal but I just needed to hear someone’s voice’. I have to have something playing in the background to get to sleep, the current favourite being Jason Stephensons ‘Get back to sleep fast’ on utube.

grammargran Fri 28-Jul-23 08:12:20

Polnan I think you are still grieving. If you had a long, happy marriage, four years is almost yesterday. And you have no-one to share your innermost thoughts with. The sort of social occasions you describe don’t lend themselves to the unburdening of like minded souls which is why you feel bereft when you arrive back home to an empty house. I know what you mean about a dog - there is always a joyous welcome awaiting you, even after a couple of minutes! Is there a bereavement group in your community you could try, or a particular friend you could invite into your home for a coffee? Our church has Connect groups - small groups who meet in each other’s houses during the week and who inevitably grow very supportive of their members. You don’t mention any family, if you have any do they know how you feel? Keep up with your friends anyway, I wish you well.

henetha Fri 28-Jul-23 08:33:12

I live alone by choice. It's essential for me to have my own space. Most of the time I'm happy with my thoughts although have been through periods of depression. Practising mindfulness is helpful in avoiding those.

biglouis Fri 28-Jul-23 23:42:17

I think that the "being alone" implied in the article is that travel per se involves a lot of time waiting around for planes and so on. Also it may well involve a lot of solitary meals if you dont have a companion.

When you are the only single diner in a restaurant it can feel uncomfortable. I often found it so when I first began to travel alone. Now I no longer do because I am a people watcher.

I knew people in the past who always carried a book with them to give them "something to do" when they were eating alone, or waiting for someone to join them. Some of them even smoked because it gave them something to do with their hands. It was almost as though a single person had to appear to have a legitimate reason for being there is a world of couples and groups. Now there are phones and mobile devices which (nearly) everyone has in their bag so there is no reason to feel out of place or awkward.

Katie59 Sat 29-Jul-23 10:32:54

If it’s fun that’s fine but it’s so easy to loose your shirt, blouse LOL. Half the professionals loose money trading shares and futures for every gain there is a loss and a commission to pay on the trade.
A couple of weeks ago you might have had some Nat West shares that are worth a lot less now, just an example how prices can change unpredictably.

Sago Sat 29-Jul-23 11:33:34

It’s very easy for someone like myself to enjoy solitude because I have a loving husband.
If I lived alone I would probably feel very differently.
My heart goes out to lonely people.

biglouis Sat 29-Jul-23 11:53:49

Do you think that (in general) women deal being alone better than men? Especially once they retire. Many women will always find something to tidy or clean or will chat to strangers at bus stops and in shops. Do you think that some women volunteer for this reason? Its sociable and passes the time as well as giving them a good feeling of doing something useful.

Elusivebutterfly Sat 29-Jul-23 12:11:51

I don't think travelling alone is connected to "being alone with your thoughts". That is being on your own, whether at home or away. I like my own company and peace and quiet. I like days out on my own but I don't like staying away on my own.

M0nica Sat 29-Jul-23 13:19:54

I like being by myself, with or without background music.

What occupies my mind depends onthe circumstances, the job on hand, sosmething planned ahead, a current worry.

I rarely dwell on the past, unless it is triggered. When I discovered someone I had loved deeply had died and read the obituary that described how he overcame MS to lead a fruitful and fulfilling life (hence a published obituary), yes, I thought of nothing else for weeks.

But digging up past bad times and dwelling on them, when they are gone and nothing can be done about them, seems to me to be utterly futile. Remember them, yes, because they inform the person you are today but endlessly rehash them, seems to me to be where madness lies. Do something active to stop it happeming, seek councelling or what best works for you.

Thoro Sat 29-Jul-23 13:25:53

When my first husband of 30 years died (I was 48) I hated being alone.
I did find another partner but sadly he has dementia and following emergency open heart surgery I can no longer care for him and he is in a care home 2 hours drive away near his daughter. This time I am content to be on my own. I do have 3 dogs so never feel totally alone.

Allsorts Mon 21-Aug-23 06:02:25

I am alone too much, I’m used to it now. I know I can never have the companionship I had with my husband. I go out for a meal or an activity but I’ve usually had enough after a few hours I am happy to come home. I don’t watch things that will upset me, almost given up on the news as it was all bad. Same with my newspaper yesterday it was all about those poor babies and their families and I ended up in tears.

M0nica Mon 21-Aug-23 06:51:36

It depends: having the radio on helps me concentrate. If I am deeply concentraing it is a distraction and is turned off.

If I am deeply thinking then that goes on regardless of what else I am doing.

Being alone is something different. Like others, I need time alone and I am content in my own company, but whether I have the radio on, or my kindle by me is a quite separate issue

Redhead56 Mon 21-Aug-23 09:12:44

A relation has severe anxiety and being alone is the worse situation to be in as their thoughts are with them all the time. Getting out and in company keeps the anxiety at bay for a short while but it’s tiring.

There is a difference in wanting alone time and needing your own space. Being alone and craving company and needing a distraction is another matter.

Greyduster Mon 21-Aug-23 12:37:14

I’ve always quite enjoyed my own company, but when it’s permanent it’s a whole different ball game. I’ve been on my own now for sixteen months, I while I am still working up to doing things alone, but I don’t rule out travelling at some stage. I don’t want my life to shut down altogether. As for being alone with one’s thoughts, I struggled last year with very dark thoughts, and was truly ashamed of some of the stuff that went through my head, but now it doesn’t happen quite so often. I do write a lot of it down - sometimes in poetry - and find that helps me to rationalise my fears and misgivings.