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Will be going on our 25th cruise in October, first one was in 1995 when our boys were ins school. Our first were on large ships with entertainment for the children. After they did their own thing we discovered smaller, predominantly adult only, ships. To begin with DH was not so enthusiastic for regular cruise holidays but now he's not interested if I suggest anything else. Interesting to know others views.
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There was a lady who lived in the QE2. Hard to imagine her life really.
I knew that deaths occur onboard cruise ships. It’s to be expected really. People die on holiday wherever they are holidaying, and so cruise ships are no different. Like in hotels, the bodies will be moved to the morgue discreetly.
I'll look out for that book. Thanks Callistemon.
Cruise: Deaths do happen on the ships - especially ones which carry older passengers. According to the cruise experts at Cruise Critic, a cruise line insider claimed up to three people die per week on cruises worldwide.
The majority of these deaths on cruises are natural, with heart attack being the most common cause.
So what happens when someone dies? When a death occurs, on certain cruise lines, the announcement “Operation Bright Star” is made, which alerts the crew to the death of a passenger.
The body of the deceased passenger is then zipped up in a body bag and put in the ship’s morgue. There is usually space for three or four bodies on board.
Someone we knew died on a cruise. He wasn't that old so it was a shock to hear the news - but he died happy.
A terrible shock for his wife, though, and family back home.
Aveline
Years ago on the QE2 we noticed that ambulances often met us in port and sometimes plain black vans. A crew member told us that some people with terminal illnesses embark on world cruises knowing they wouldn't be coming home. They'd bring all their meds and equipment etc. The medics on board were given their medical records. On one cruise the poor wife died early on but the husband stayed on board for the rest of the cruise. They had no family. No special need to go home. So sad.
Have you read The Last Voyage of Mrs Henry Parker by Joanna Nell, Aveline?
That is sad Aveline, but I’d rather than dying alone and no one finding me.
Years ago on the QE2 we noticed that ambulances often met us in port and sometimes plain black vans. A crew member told us that some people with terminal illnesses embark on world cruises knowing they wouldn't be coming home. They'd bring all their meds and equipment etc. The medics on board were given their medical records. On one cruise the poor wife died early on but the husband stayed on board for the rest of the cruise. They had no family. No special need to go home. So sad.
They would have to tie me down, I would leap overboard and swim for it, my passport in my teeth at the first sight of land.
When the thought of an endless non-stop world cruise appeals to me is when they should gently detach my life support system, whtever that might be.
M0nica, my friends (professional dance teachers) enjoy free cruising in return for giving lessons. There are lots of elderly ladies on permanent cruises - as it's far cheaper than 'luxury' care homes and the food is so much better. What a scary thought, being sent off on a non-stop world cruise!
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I am trying to persuade DH to book a river cruise on the Douro in Portugal.
It's fantastic! Smallest of their boats. Lovely excursions.
It is an irrelevance, but I have just opened a mailing from a retirement home developer and as I read their carefully crafted prose, it occurred to me that it sounds like the blurb for a cruise'
the future is always brighter when it is tailored for you........we believe you should keep enjoying every second...........explore stunning ;andscape, enjoy fine dining.... indulge in some pampering.....keep up your love of travel.
I suddenly realised that just as I found that traditional cruising was not my holiday scene, living in a retirement complex would be similar, and again, not for me.
We enjoyed that one. There was no problem with river levels when we went in spring and it was lovely weather. Our only problem was the biggest lock in Europe was damaged, so on the last day we had an hour on the coach to transfer to the airport, instead of a shorter journey. All beautifully organised by the tour company. Good luck with persuading.
I am trying to persuade DH to book a river cruise on the Douro in Portugal.
I wonder how many 'haters' have tried it. There are many types of cruise I I prefer the expeditionary ones eg Antarctica but have also been on river trips. Small ships are my preference. It's great as you unpack and the destinations come to you, we've made some good friends too. Not for everyone but it depends on the cruise and your attitude.
Hetty58 Thank you for a sincere and heartwarming post. Your comment “What others think of me is unimportant - but I like to think well of myself” has really touched me; it’s a blueprint for leading a good life, treading lightly on the earth (and people’s feelings).
I've been wondering why these posts stir up so much anger. They seem to inevitably turn into the 'us and them' scenario, the for and against.
It's uncomfortable, of course, to have your conscience pricked, to experience self doubt, to feel the need to defend yourself.
I'm reminded of the vegan posts - where I fully expect to be viciously attacked and branded 'virtuous' simply because I choose not to consume animal products.
In fact, it's because I feel repulsed by the prospect of eating flesh, I care deeply about the planet and my health. What others think of me is not important - but I like to think well of myself.
That uncomfortable feeling is cognitive dissonance - it's when there's a conflict between your true beliefs/principles and your actions.
We love our grandchildren (of course we do, I'm sure, even if they drive us mad). We don't want to leave them on a polluted, dying planet with wildfires, warming seas, mass extinctions, starvation, disease and (inevitably) war. We'd like to do so much better.
Still, there's that little voice inside 'Go ahead, do it, buy it, enjoy it, you won't be here much longer!' We're all guilty, just to a greater or lesser extent. We're all in the 'luxury bracket' worldwide, we can feed and house ourselves - even take holidays.
I enjoy exploring and sightseeing, hillwalking, hiking, cycling and backpacking, so yes, I'm guilty of using transport sometimes. I'm not pinned to one spot.
On a lighter note, it's lost on some. Just the once, I went on a typical beach, all inclusive package holiday (not my thing) wanting to treat a relative. What did she do? She sat in the shade (with her book) by the pool, refused outings or unfamiliar food - came to the beach a few times - and complained about homesickness and the lack of shops. Quietly hopping mad (it was very expensive, 2 adults, my 4 kids) it occurred to me that I could have just bought her a pass to the local swimming pool!
Northernlass Thank you for correction. Why I always mix up Franch Furedi and Jim Al-Khalili I do not know, but it is a mistake I make regularly and never realise, until someone pulls me up. If I thought I was wrong I would check it out, but I always think I have got it right this time. 
Anyway it was an excellent programme.
Thank you Fliss. Perhaps we’ll get back to liking or disliking cruising now.
Bingo - somebody said it!
I know many people adore cruises, but my husband and I agree: they sound like floating Petrie dishes from hell.
Thank you Fliss
We're just dropping in with a plea for civility - we have recieved a large number of reports about this post so we'd like the discussion to avoid the personal from here on in. 
Aveline
Blondiescot thank you for your sage comments.
Still waiting to hear about alternative environmentally friendly holidays.
But I’m sure they will be along soon, unless they’re going to claim that they never go anywhere. 😁
Blondiescot thank you for your sage comments.
Still waiting to hear about alternative environmentally friendly holidays.
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