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madeleine45 Thu 22-Aug-24 00:01:53

Why are the papers full of surprise, shock horror, that british passport holders will be expected to follow the rules for travelling into europe? What did they think would happen when they chose to leave the EU. They chose to become outsiders and now winge about the effects of their choice. When you chose to leave the gang , you are not part of the group any more , and are treated accordingly. Do the British still think they have some right to be treated in some "special" category?

Buttonjugs Sat 24-Aug-24 11:53:11

Sallywally1

Reminds me of the phrase ‘you’re going to reap what you sow’. The trouble is those of us who voted to stay in the EU are reaping it as well!

Exactly. I have never got over the recklessness of the referendum because I knew that if people voted to leave everything would be worse. I predicted that France would let more immigrants through to the UK (not that I have a problem with that but I knew the Brexiteers did and were shooting them selves in the foot). But you can’t reason with stupid. Now they’re up in arms about immigration again because they still haven’t learned what the real cause of the problem is.

Jane43 Sat 24-Aug-24 11:50:11

pascal30

we brought our own demise.. but latest figures show that 59% of people now wish to rejoin the EU... though I rather suspect that they would make it very difficult now

It would be very costly to rejoin I would imagine.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 24-Aug-24 11:47:27

mabon1

It's £7.00. for three years. If you can afford a foreign holiday that's peanuts.

If your vehicle isn’t up to Sadiq Kahn’s ULEZ regulations it’s £12.50 each time you go into London, including the suburbs.

7€’s for three years covering the entire EU area is a bargain.

Mollygo Sat 24-Aug-24 11:45:14

We have had to pay tourist taxes in France and Italy for years now, whether we stay in hotels or gîtes. Everyone is charged, whatever nationality. If Edinburgh wants to do it, why not?
It would be a good fund raiser for the LakeDistrict too.

orly Sat 24-Aug-24 11:38:45

From next year you'll have to pay a tourist tax to visit Edinburgh. And Scotland moans about being dragged out of the EU against it's will and is still trying to leave the UK despite a referendum

Mollygo Sat 24-Aug-24 11:36:05

Freya5
Maybe we should reciprocate, will bring much needed cash to Reeves coffers.

Good thought.

Mollygo Sat 24-Aug-24 11:33:15

I vited remain, but actually, it’s no big deal, if you’re used to travelling outside Europe.

What does make me mad is the thought of all those whingers who sat on their rear ends and didn’t bother to vote, who will now complain bitterly about the visa.

knspol Sat 24-Aug-24 11:17:38

Finger prints at airports are a real nightmare for me as mine just do not work anywhere. Whatever country we're in I have a few tries at the machines and then get shepherded off elsewhere to be questioned and have officials try and try again to take a print of them to compare. It has always eventually worked eventually but then I've been passed through another exit and wonder where the heck I am and unable to find my DH. I always wonder what will happen if they can't manage to get a print. Did read that fingerprints can fade a little with age and especially in women if their hands have been in water a lot, don't know if this is true. Does anybody else have the same problem?

mabon1 Sat 24-Aug-24 11:15:54

It's £7.00. for three years. If you can afford a foreign holiday that's peanuts.

fancythat Thu 22-Aug-24 11:09:01

I rarely leave the country personally. And not usually the EU.

fancythat Thu 22-Aug-24 11:08:11

Fingerprints, - I've nothing to hide so I don't mind

The point may be for some, not what we do with them, but what authorities may wish to do with them. At some point in the future.
Or hackers.
Or criminals. Or whoever.

Cressy Thu 22-Aug-24 11:00:04

biglouis - who are the other plebs we have to queue with? I can’t think of any other country who have left the EU. So why are people from those countries ‘plebs’?

Mamie Thu 22-Aug-24 10:52:39

Yes sorry, EES November not ETIAS which is indeed May. I am hoping we permanent French residents will get a separate queue!

Freya5 Thu 22-Aug-24 10:42:08

Sallywally1

Reminds me of the phrase ‘you’re going to reap what you sow’. The trouble is those of us who voted to stay in the EU are reaping it as well!

Wonder if you ever visit America, or any other country that needs an entry visa, its no big deal.

Cossy Thu 22-Aug-24 10:32:20

The queues coming back from Malaga are very very long, resulting in some missing flights!

Cossy Thu 22-Aug-24 10:31:33

pascal30

we brought our own demise.. but latest figures show that 59% of people now wish to rejoin the EU... though I rather suspect that they would make it very difficult now

I agree, but we simply cannot afford it!

Brexit, the gift which keeps giving angry

V3ra Thu 22-Aug-24 10:31:33

www.holidayextras.com/tips-and-advice/how-to-get-ready-for-ees.html#what%20is

This is clearly written. There are two new systems coming.
The EES starts in November, the ETIAS starts next year.

henetha Thu 22-Aug-24 10:26:43

Sometimes there is a lot of fuss about nothing. So we will have to pay every three years, - no problem surely. Fingerprints, - I've nothing to hide so I don't mind.
This summer I have travelled to the Balearics and Ireland without any problems at all. No extra queuing, no different treatment for being a Brit.

Sallywally1 Thu 22-Aug-24 10:24:35

Reminds me of the phrase ‘you’re going to reap what you sow’. The trouble is those of us who voted to stay in the EU are reaping it as well!

Mamie Thu 22-Aug-24 10:14:44

This is helpful.
www.connexionfrance.com/news/new-eu-border-control-checks-to-launch-november-10-official/673797
People should also be aware that the péage system for motorway tolls is slowly being phased out. If you have a badge (such as BipandGo) in your car it will be registered automatically, otherwise you pay online. It is only a few autoroutes at the moment, but Paris to Normandie is one of the ones due to change this year.

Mamie Thu 22-Aug-24 10:00:59

The 7€ charge will not apply to under 18s or over 70s. The ETIAS system starts in mid November in the Port of Dover, the tunnel and Eurostar. It will involving providing fingerprints (on a tablet I think). A lot has been put in place to make it as simple as possible. Those of us who have British passports and live in France will be able to use our residency cards which already have our fingerprints. It has been delayed several times, but is required for third country nationals.

ronib Thu 22-Aug-24 09:46:08

petra should they? Not just European travellers but anyone who visits?

petra Thu 22-Aug-24 09:43:11

ronib

Do EU nationals need visas to enter the UK?

No.

Freya5 Thu 22-Aug-24 09:37:20

madeleine45

Why are the papers full of surprise, shock horror, that british passport holders will be expected to follow the rules for travelling into europe? What did they think would happen when they chose to leave the EU. They chose to become outsiders and now winge about the effects of their choice. When you chose to leave the gang , you are not part of the group any more , and are treated accordingly. Do the British still think they have some right to be treated in some "special" category?

Who is moaning. The papers are informing people what will happen. I travel to Europe , my family travel regularly to America, they have to get a three year visa, for years now, I had to get one to enter Australia, Oman etc. Big deal. Will it stop travel, no of course not. A measly few Euros.
Another chance to have a dig at those who voted to leave, EU have planned this for years. Maybe we should reciprocate, will bring much needed cash to Reeves coffers.

ronib Thu 22-Aug-24 09:07:16

Do EU nationals need visas to enter the UK?