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madeleine45 Thu 22-Aug-24 00:01:53

Why are the papers full of surprise, shock horror, that british passport holders will be expected to follow the rules for travelling into europe? What did they think would happen when they chose to leave the EU. They chose to become outsiders and now winge about the effects of their choice. When you chose to leave the gang , you are not part of the group any more , and are treated accordingly. Do the British still think they have some right to be treated in some "special" category?

LOUISA1523 Thu 22-Aug-24 06:59:18

What rules are you referring to OP?

biglouis Thu 22-Aug-24 07:02:55

The EU are bringing in strict new entry rules whereby (instead of simply having your passport stamped) individuals will have to supply fingerprints etc. The apps which allow application in advance are apparently not going to be ready in time. All this means that we Brits are going to have to queue along with all the other plebs if we intend to travel to the EU.

Farmor15 Thu 22-Aug-24 08:43:00

www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/20/uk-citizens-travelling-to-eu-next-summer-will-have-to-pay-7-visa-waiver-charge?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
Full details here

Oopsadaisy1 Thu 22-Aug-24 08:45:54

It’s a €7 visa charge which I think is a one off payment, starting next May.

NannyJan53 Thu 22-Aug-24 08:49:02

As far as I am aware the payment is only for 3 years, then you pay again, by then the cost would have probably increased!

As OP says, why do some people express surprise. It was what the Brexiters voted for! Restricted freedom of movement applies both ways.

I think I read over 70's will have to apply for the Visa but not pay?

pascal30 Thu 22-Aug-24 08:50:14

we brought our own demise.. but latest figures show that 59% of people now wish to rejoin the EU... though I rather suspect that they would make it very difficult now

David49 Thu 22-Aug-24 08:50:15

Oopsadaisy1

It’s a €7 visa charge which I think is a one off payment, starting next May.

Renew every 3 yrs, if we have to supply finger prints that will be a pain

Grantanow Thu 22-Aug-24 08:57:04

Brexit: the gift that keeps on giving.

ronib Thu 22-Aug-24 09:07:16

Do EU nationals need visas to enter the UK?

Freya5 Thu 22-Aug-24 09:37:20

madeleine45

Why are the papers full of surprise, shock horror, that british passport holders will be expected to follow the rules for travelling into europe? What did they think would happen when they chose to leave the EU. They chose to become outsiders and now winge about the effects of their choice. When you chose to leave the gang , you are not part of the group any more , and are treated accordingly. Do the British still think they have some right to be treated in some "special" category?

Who is moaning. The papers are informing people what will happen. I travel to Europe , my family travel regularly to America, they have to get a three year visa, for years now, I had to get one to enter Australia, Oman etc. Big deal. Will it stop travel, no of course not. A measly few Euros.
Another chance to have a dig at those who voted to leave, EU have planned this for years. Maybe we should reciprocate, will bring much needed cash to Reeves coffers.

petra Thu 22-Aug-24 09:43:11

ronib

Do EU nationals need visas to enter the UK?

No.

ronib Thu 22-Aug-24 09:46:08

petra should they? Not just European travellers but anyone who visits?

Mamie Thu 22-Aug-24 10:00:59

The 7€ charge will not apply to under 18s or over 70s. The ETIAS system starts in mid November in the Port of Dover, the tunnel and Eurostar. It will involving providing fingerprints (on a tablet I think). A lot has been put in place to make it as simple as possible. Those of us who have British passports and live in France will be able to use our residency cards which already have our fingerprints. It has been delayed several times, but is required for third country nationals.

Mamie Thu 22-Aug-24 10:14:44

This is helpful.
www.connexionfrance.com/news/new-eu-border-control-checks-to-launch-november-10-official/673797
People should also be aware that the péage system for motorway tolls is slowly being phased out. If you have a badge (such as BipandGo) in your car it will be registered automatically, otherwise you pay online. It is only a few autoroutes at the moment, but Paris to Normandie is one of the ones due to change this year.

Sallywally1 Thu 22-Aug-24 10:24:35

Reminds me of the phrase ‘you’re going to reap what you sow’. The trouble is those of us who voted to stay in the EU are reaping it as well!

henetha Thu 22-Aug-24 10:26:43

Sometimes there is a lot of fuss about nothing. So we will have to pay every three years, - no problem surely. Fingerprints, - I've nothing to hide so I don't mind.
This summer I have travelled to the Balearics and Ireland without any problems at all. No extra queuing, no different treatment for being a Brit.

V3ra Thu 22-Aug-24 10:31:33

www.holidayextras.com/tips-and-advice/how-to-get-ready-for-ees.html#what%20is

This is clearly written. There are two new systems coming.
The EES starts in November, the ETIAS starts next year.

Cossy Thu 22-Aug-24 10:31:33

pascal30

we brought our own demise.. but latest figures show that 59% of people now wish to rejoin the EU... though I rather suspect that they would make it very difficult now

I agree, but we simply cannot afford it!

Brexit, the gift which keeps giving angry

Cossy Thu 22-Aug-24 10:32:20

The queues coming back from Malaga are very very long, resulting in some missing flights!

Freya5 Thu 22-Aug-24 10:42:08

Sallywally1

Reminds me of the phrase ‘you’re going to reap what you sow’. The trouble is those of us who voted to stay in the EU are reaping it as well!

Wonder if you ever visit America, or any other country that needs an entry visa, its no big deal.

Mamie Thu 22-Aug-24 10:52:39

Yes sorry, EES November not ETIAS which is indeed May. I am hoping we permanent French residents will get a separate queue!

Cressy Thu 22-Aug-24 11:00:04

biglouis - who are the other plebs we have to queue with? I can’t think of any other country who have left the EU. So why are people from those countries ‘plebs’?

fancythat Thu 22-Aug-24 11:08:11

Fingerprints, - I've nothing to hide so I don't mind

The point may be for some, not what we do with them, but what authorities may wish to do with them. At some point in the future.
Or hackers.
Or criminals. Or whoever.

fancythat Thu 22-Aug-24 11:09:01

I rarely leave the country personally. And not usually the EU.