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Re-naming SS Great Britain tourist attraction

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valdali Wed 15-Jul-26 19:11:20

To be fair, the ship is still SS Great Britain.
However, the brown signs will now read Bristol Dockyards .

The reasons - it's been decided more people will be interested in the tales of ordinary people who travelled on her, than the ship's genius designer Isambard Kingdon Brunel & the ship herself, the first iron-hulled to cross the Atlantic and the first propellor driven to cross the Atlantic.
Also - you couldn't make it up - visitors may be under a misapprehension that SS Great Britain stands for "Slave Ship" Great Britain. Considering that neither Brunel nor his ships had any connection with the slave trade, why not just spell out "Steam Ship Great Britain" on the signs? Many people do want to see this iconic ship, which has been a major Bristol landmark for 50 years, & to be honest the surrounding docks aren't a patch on Gloucester.
Aren't they taking things too far?

M0nica Wed 15-Jul-26 20:02:41

'It has been decided', classic woke response. Why did they not go out and run a proper survey and find out what visitors thought they were coming to see?

AuntieE Thu 16-Jul-26 14:01:53

People could also be under the misapprehension that SS refers to Hitler's Schutsstaffel!

It is, and always has been, difficult to assess how prevalent ignorance is.

Usually, museums etc. explain anything they expect the general public not to know, rather than just change designations.

JaneJudge Thu 16-Jul-26 14:04:52

oh he's not important enough that they named a university after him <massive eye roll>

Neilspurgeon0 Thu 16-Jul-26 14:21:44

JaneJudge

oh he's not important enough that they named a university after him <massive eye roll>

And after Churchill was voted the Greatest Great Britain - as Littlejohn used to bleat “you couldn’t make it up”.

25Avalon Thu 16-Jul-26 14:31:01

They are woke idiots.

Romola Thu 16-Jul-26 14:44:23

Sorry, but a sign pointing to Bristol Dockyards would not make me think of visiting them. I think the site will experience a reduction in visitors.
Why couldn't the sign read "Brunel's Steamship Great Britain"?
This is an absurd example of wokery.

What are the

vegansrock Thu 16-Jul-26 14:56:27

Why are you blaming “wokery” rather than the ignorance of the great British public? No I wouldn't be interested in visiting a dockyard, but some people would and yes, maybe adding Brunel’s steamship Great Britain to the description would be all that is needed.

Mojack26 Thu 16-Jul-26 15:07:32

Agree 25Avalon

petra Thu 16-Jul-26 15:17:32

Neilspurgeon0

JaneJudge

oh he's not important enough that they named a university after him <massive eye roll>

And after Churchill was voted the Greatest Great Britain - as Littlejohn used to bleat “you couldn’t make it up”.

And the first in the world to build a tunnel under a navigable river ( with his father)

keepcalmandcavachon Thu 16-Jul-26 15:38:54

They are also developing the Albion Dock next door & also plans are afoot for a replica of SS Great Western. It in no way denirgrates Brunel to name the area Bristol Dockyards.
I love visiting it, there is still an authentic ambiance unlike some of its sadly overdeveloped 'shopping mall esque'counterparts.
The (mostly young)people of Bristol that I know of are friendly and keen that their lovely city is known to be inclusive and respectful of all of the workers high & low whose lives will be commemorated. As it should be IMO.

cc Thu 16-Jul-26 16:32:40

It is the most fascinating thing to visit, but I'm not sure that Bristol Dockyards has the same ring.

eazybee Thu 16-Jul-26 16:46:37

It is wokery because it 'has been decided' (by whom?) that visitors are more interested in tales of ordinary people than visiting an engineering feat by a genius.

25Avalon Thu 16-Jul-26 18:04:25

Yes Brunel was a great genius eazybee - Clifton Suspension Bridge, Royal Albert Bridge across the Tamar at Saltash, Great Western Railway, Floating Harbour in Bristol, hospitals in the Crimea, SS Great Britain, SS Great Easter, SS Great Western, and on one day of the year the sun shines through Box Tunnel east of Bath and that day is Brunel’s birthday. He could have a whole museum all to himself with Bristol achievements alone.

I remember when the SS Great Britain came home to the original dry dock in which she was built in Bristol in July 1970. Crowds lined Hotwells to cheer. A lot of work has taken place since then to restore her. It is the SS Great Britain people come to see.

Galaxy Thu 16-Jul-26 18:15:39

I quite like it when they have a consultation to name something, that always ends well smile

valdali Thu 16-Jul-26 18:58:48

Boaty Mc Brunelface, Galaxy...

M0nica Fri 17-Jul-26 14:11:45

AuntieE

People could also be under the misapprehension that SS refers to Hitler's Schutsstaffel!

It is, and always has been, difficult to assess how prevalent ignorance is.

Usually, museums etc. explain anything they expect the general public not to know, rather than just change designations.

I doubt it. If they don't know SS stands for Steam Ship, they are unlikely to know that in another context entirely, it stands for 'Schutsstaffel'.

Some years ago we went to Bristol specifically to visit the SS Great Britain. Our party included a professional ship designer and a 5-10 year old girl who knew everything that anybody could possible want to know about Isambard Kingdom Brunel.

I also visited it with a group of archaeologist friends who were all absolutely clear that we were visiting the SS Great Britain, what it was, who designed it and what it did.

Cossy Fri 17-Jul-26 14:26:09

The great Bristolians (those living there now) are on the whole a very laid back BUT totally inclusive bunch of people.

They were the people that asked the council repeatedly to please remove the public statue (outside) of Edward Colston,(1636–1721), Bristol’s most infamous slave trader. A senior official in the Royal African Company, his investments and leadership facilitated the enslavement of tens of thousands of Africans. Though he did fund local schools and hospitals.

When the council steadfastly refused local people toppled it into the water.

The local people had no issue with his statue, and his story, being placed into a museum and forming part of Bristol’s history, however they objected to it being in the street and celebrated. Their City, their choice.

The people of Bristol may have been consulted.

My son and his gf have lived in Bristol for over 10 years. His fg was born and bred in Gloucester and did her degree and masters at Bristol Uni.

My DH and I love Bristol and a lot of work has been done on their harbour and dockyards.

It’s getting terribly boring hearing the expression “woke” and “worker” banded around constantly, particularly when used totally out of context.

Cossy Fri 17-Jul-26 14:27:02

valdali

Boaty Mc Brunelface, Galaxy...

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 grin

valdali Fri 17-Jul-26 14:36:45

Cossy

The great Bristolians (those living there now) are on the whole a very laid back BUT totally inclusive bunch of people.

They were the people that asked the council repeatedly to please remove the public statue (outside) of Edward Colston,(1636–1721), Bristol’s most infamous slave trader. A senior official in the Royal African Company, his investments and leadership facilitated the enslavement of tens of thousands of Africans. Though he did fund local schools and hospitals.

When the council steadfastly refused local people toppled it into the water.

The local people had no issue with his statue, and his story, being placed into a museum and forming part of Bristol’s history, however they objected to it being in the street and celebrated. Their City, their choice.

The people of Bristol may have been consulted.

My son and his gf have lived in Bristol for over 10 years. His fg was born and bred in Gloucester and did her degree and masters at Bristol Uni.

My DH and I love Bristol and a lot of work has been done on their harbour and dockyards.

It’s getting terribly boring hearing the expression “woke” and “worker” banded around constantly, particularly when used totally out of context.

Yes & I love that about Bristol. I love that it has an inclusive & green culture.
But the people of Bristol put a lot of effort into getting the SS Great Britain back from Argentina & restoring her & submitting bids for government money to give her an environment to preserve her for future generations.In other words, a lot of us are proud of the ship.
I'm not saying I disagree with the spirit behind being non-elitist, & I'm glad they toppled Colston, but I think the re-naming is going too far. If there were any slave connections, I wouldn't think this but there just aren't.

Greyduster Fri 17-Jul-26 16:06:33

Was she ever in Argentina? I thought she was recovered from
Port Stanley in The Falkland Islands where she had ended up being scuttled.

Tuliptree Fri 17-Jul-26 16:15:10

Of course if you would really like the truth you could read the link but then you’d have to drop the cheap ‘woke’ jibes and where’s the fun in that?

www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/news/2026/06/brunels-ss-great-britain-site-renamed-as-new-museum-prepares-to-launch/

JenniRen Fri 17-Jul-26 23:02:21

Perhaps Historic Bristol Dockyards?

There is more to the Bristol Dockyards than the Steam Ship Great Britain although that is the main attraction and it is well worth a visit.

M0nica Sat 18-Jul-26 08:13:53

Greyduster

Was she ever in Argentina? I thought she was recovered from
Port Stanley in The Falkland Islands where she had ended up being scuttled.

She was recovered from the Falkland s, as you say.

Cossy Sat 18-Jul-26 08:41:57

Tuliptree

Of course if you would really like the truth you could read the link but then you’d have to drop the cheap ‘woke’ jibes and where’s the fun in that?

www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/news/2026/06/brunels-ss-great-britain-site-renamed-as-new-museum-prepares-to-launch/

Thank you 🙂