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12 years a Slave

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MaggieP Tue 21-Jan-14 00:02:45

Has anyone seen this yet?
A very moving, utterly bleak, sad portrayal of suffering and cruelty of Negro slaves in America through the eyes of a freeman sold into slavery.(based on a true story)
Brilliantly filmed and acted, and I hope it does get awarded some Oscars.

Tegan Tue 21-Jan-14 00:22:28

Not on at our cinema till next week. Mark Kermode has said it will become a classic of the cinema. Can't wait to see it.

Iam64 Tue 21-Jan-14 08:57:36

Saw it on Sunday afternoon, in an unusually packed cinema. It is indeed very moving, and utterly bleak - no light relief at all. I read that some black groups are unhappy with the film, calling it, 'torture porn'.

I'm still feeling a bit haunted by the film, so it was powerful. I hope it leads to deeper discussion, and understanding about the lasting impact of slavery and brutality.

palliser65 Tue 21-Jan-14 09:15:23

I am buying the book rather than seeing the film. Read Schindler's List rather than watch the film. Not sure what can be gained by watching brutality except lots of money for the producers.

Humbertbear Tue 21-Jan-14 09:29:16

An incredible experience although I am not sure I would want to watch it again. I'll certainly never watch Gone with the Wind again. Everyone should see this movie. It's been a much bigger hit in America than over here (for obvious reasons). Something wrong with the voting system if American Hustle carries off the awards.

Anniebach Tue 21-Jan-14 09:31:47

Is there a difference between watching brutality and reading of brutality? There are those who wouldn't believe the Haulicaust happened if it had only been spoken of in books

The young do not read books as previous generations did, if this film had not been made the book shops would not be packed with readers wanting to read about slavery.

This film may help a young generation understand how easy it can be to dehumanise people because of their race, colour or creed

sunseeker Tue 21-Jan-14 09:43:19

Whilst I feel I should see this film I think it will be too harrowing for me. I have seen some "clips" on TV and whilst it does appear to be very well acted I'm not sure I could take seeing the suffering. That probably makes me a moral coward - I will have to wait until the film is being shown near me before I make my final decision.

Lilygran Tue 21-Jan-14 09:58:18

It is harrowing but I think calling it 'torture porn' is very unfair. The physical brutality is not lingered on in the way horror movies do. It is very moving.

janthea Tue 21-Jan-14 12:56:00

I'm sure it's a brilliant film, but I have no wish to see it. I go to the cinema to be entertained and I certainly don't think this would be entertainment.

I saw the Wolf of Wall Street at the weekend and that is entertainment!! Appalling language but hysterically funny in places. Everyone in the cinema was laughing with tears rolling down their cheeks. grin

durhamjen Tue 21-Jan-14 13:57:09

Successive governments have been hiding slave trade files for centuries. Some date back to 1662. It will be interesting to find out what is so important that it still needs to be hidden.
One thing to be thankful for is the Freedom of Information Act, without which these files would still not be known about. These files should have been in the National Archives before now. Some historians are saying they might have to change their ideas on the first world war because of these discoveries.

Penstemmon Sun 26-Jan-14 22:08:04

I saw the film on Thursday. There were some great performances , notably Michael Fassbinder as the slave owner. Chiwetel Ejiofor was also good and Sarah Paulson as Mrs Epps. To me the most sinister scene for me was not the lynchings/whippings but seeing the slave owner basically grooming a young black girl who, in her innocence,had no idea what the future held for her.
There were some fantastic cinematography in the good framing, lingering shots, holding images for longer than is often seen in films.

The story was very interesting and made me look up a lot of information about abolition of slavery in the US as I have no real chronology in my mind about that.

One aspect of the film I was not convinced by was the lifestyle of Solomon Northrop as a free man in Saratoga. I plan to learn more about that to see if my assumptions are right or wrong

However overall I found it hard to get emotionally involved in Solomon's story and I am not sure why.

Nonu Sun 26-Jan-14 22:18:52

Would not be my bag at all !
We have been in several museums in the the USofA and seen the things that were used to keep the slaves in oppression, to be frank , I could not really bear to look.
Talk about mans inhumanity to man !!

Penstemmon Sun 26-Jan-14 22:37:30

Nonu I did know quite a lot about the slave trade and appalling situations/ conditions and history before I went. It told a story about one man's experience and told it well. I do not think the scenes of violence were gratuitous and the story could not have been told without them.

Sadly man's inhumanity to man continues in a similar vein across the world.

Tegan Sun 26-Jan-14 22:45:37

It was based on his autobiography so I would imagine it was pretty factual. Hoping to see it later in the week [after the new Coen Brothers film]. One of my concerns is that I didn't like McQueens two previous films [actually that's an understatement; I loathed 'Shame'].

Penstemmon Sun 26-Jan-14 22:49:52

I was surprised to read that Solomon's death and grave are unknown.

Iam64 Mon 27-Jan-14 17:56:45

I read this week that Solomon was a farmer in the north. Like Penstemmon, I was unsure that a freeman would have the very positive relationships shown between Solomon and white businessmen, professionals in a middle class neighbourhood. I need to do a bit more reading don't I.
Penstemmon, like you, I found the scene with the plantation owner, wearing his nightgown, drunk and leading the little girl, who looked about 8 around with him very distressing. I was even more distressed when he suggested to her, let's go inside and get you some candy. The film has stayed with me, I still don't feel the violence as gratuitous.

Eloethan Tue 28-Jan-14 01:17:24

Saw it tonight - unremittingly grim. I already knew about the terrible treatment of black slaves and I'm not sure if watching scene after scene of torture and cruelty was particularly valuable.

petallus Tue 28-Jan-14 08:06:43

I don't plan to watch it.

I saw one at Christmas which was very similar and anyway I try to avoid 'social conscience' films.

petallus Tue 28-Jan-14 08:08:19

The worst flogging scene I ever saw was in The Passion of the Christ.

annodomini Tue 28-Jan-14 08:20:30

I have no great desire to see it, though I am sure it is a fine film. I don't go to the cinema to be depressed. I know about the evils of slavery and the maltreatment of slaves. Philomena, on the other hand, gives a rounded picture of hope and humanity, cruelty and tragedy.

Iam64 Tue 28-Jan-14 08:49:54

I continue to feel a bit haunted by this film. I wasn't sure about going to see it, but I don't regret it. I learned about the slave trade at the age of 13, in history which was taught by the very wonderful Miss Slater. I hope the film will add to a necessary debate about the longer term implications of brutalisation and oppression.

glammanana Tue 28-Jan-14 09:55:39

I don't think I will be going to watch this film I too am aware of the awful mistreatment of slaves coming into Liverpool Port and have over the years taken DGC when they where old enough to see the actual bollards and chains that these oppressed people where chained to and to the Museum as I don't think enough is told about these horrific times in school and that they should be aware what went on in their local area.

Iam64 Tue 28-Jan-14 17:52:59

Yes Glamma we took our children then grandchildren later when they were 10ish. I said earlier, I do hope this film leads the way on a more open acknowledgement of the horrors and the longer term implications of this kind of abuse.

alternativegran Fri 31-Jan-14 11:41:27

I am not sure I can face seeing the film but I managed to get the book for my Kindle at 49p

alternativegran Fri 31-Jan-14 11:42:41

Yesterday