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phoenix Sun 31-Jul-16 19:31:10

"Alas poor Scruff, I knew him well, who could forget that pungent smell?"

phoenix Mon 22-Aug-16 18:42:22

Graces at no point did I say or even allude to knowing a psychopath!

Gracesgran Mon 22-Aug-16 19:21:09

I wonder what your post of 20-Aug-16 18:35:12 meant then phoenix. You appeared to be talking about Robs characteristics which have been discussed everywhere, including on here, as being those of a narcissistic psychopath.

I would have thought that to be reminded of someone it could, reasonably, be said that someone counted that person among the people you know.

I am sorry if you are offended by my interpretation of what you said - I thought it was interesting that you seemed to recognise the characteristics. Perhaps I should have used a word other than "know" but I cannot think what to be honest as you would really have to "know" someone for someone else's character to remind you of them surely.

Iam64 Mon 22-Aug-16 19:23:59

Elegran - I have also met a female psychopath, in my personal life, very similar to the one you describe.
The kind of work I did meant I met a number of male psychopaths in the course of my working life, including one who reminds me very much of Rob.
I've just listened to this evenings episode of the Archers. The abuse Caz describes made my stomach churn.
I wonder what Helen managed to say to to Ann whilst we were back in Ambridge? Will Caz's disclosure make Helen trigger memories of events at BHC leading up the Helen stabbing Rob?
It's a disturbing story line but then, life can be disturbing, can't it. I imagine it's triggering all kinds of awful memories for some listeners. I didn't hear one of those announcements at the end of the programme that suggest you phone xxx if any of the issues has distressed you. (Maybe it was there and I missed it)
I hope so.

phoenix Mon 22-Aug-16 19:38:03

Graces if you re-read my post, then I think many people will have encountered others with those sort of behaviours, but it doesn't necessarily mean they fall into the category of psychopathy.

phoenix Mon 22-Aug-16 19:40:14

Merlot love you post re The Freda Fry Memorial Trophy, grin

merlotgran Mon 22-Aug-16 19:40:17

Phoenix seemed to be saying earlier that she counted at least one psychopath among the people she knows

What in the name of Joe Grundy and all his ferrets are you on about, gracesgran? confused

And before you ask, Some of my best friends are NOT psychopaths.

Gracesgran Mon 22-Aug-16 19:52:54

The Archers Wisdom Quiz

I haven't done this yet but it could be fun.

Nelliemoser Mon 22-Aug-16 19:53:05

I would hesitate to lable anyone A Psychopath or A Paranoid Schizophrenic. They might well at times show behaviours that fit the recognised diagnostic criteria but it is wrong to just lable people without any good medical evidence.
Over the last 100+ years there have been many people locked up in mental institutions for a one time "diagnosis."

Iam64 Mon 22-Aug-16 19:56:03

Nellie, to clarify - I was referring to people who had been very carefully assessed and the diagnosis reached by more than one "expert"

phoenix Mon 22-Aug-16 19:57:55

Very true, Nellie

Gracesgran Mon 22-Aug-16 20:16:45

They do say that many companies are run by psychopaths Iam and many governments. It seems to work for them getting to the top because they don't have the emotions others have but recognise how to use and manipulate other people. Some will not be so successful which is why 'Rob' has been called "high-achieving I suppose.

We have been talking about the characteristics of 'Rob' Nellie for about two years and it I have certainly given links to articles by psychiatrists who have said that is what they would suspect (and he is not realsmile). Psychopaths do not need to be people to fear; obviously with greater recognition of the condition we can see that, just as with any mental illness, if recognised it does not need to be dangerous (although it can be) and it is better talked about than not.

We are not naming people but having chatted about and compared 'Rob's' characteristics with real people phoenix I find it a little wry that you are now agreeing with Nellie's not unreasonable concern; not one you showed in the original post though.

NfkDumpling Mon 22-Aug-16 21:33:38

Just did the test Grace and only 4/10. Terrible!

fiorentina51 Mon 22-Aug-16 22:23:29

I got 5/10?.

Gracesgran Mon 22-Aug-16 22:29:11

I got 6/10 but several were a guess as I just didn't remember them on the programme.

Elrel Mon 22-Aug-16 22:56:05

7/10 but mostly guesses!

J52 Mon 22-Aug-16 23:22:40

8/10! I'm shocked!

Nelliemoser Mon 22-Aug-16 23:28:57

6/10 more vague intuition than anything.

rubysong Mon 22-Aug-16 23:41:10

4/10. Oh dear! It's quite difficult.

Nanabelle Mon 22-Aug-16 23:44:01

Um, I got 9/10, but have been listening for ever! Obviously some were considered guesses wink.

phoenix Tue 23-Aug-16 00:14:07

Oh Graces for heavens sake, (that ok with you, or are you going to now castigate me for using a religious phrase, rather than one from "the gutter") this is/was a supposedly semi light hearted thread about the Archers!

I really do wonder......

phoenix Tue 23-Aug-16 00:24:41

Tell you what, Graces I think I might just leave this thread to you, as it seems that you have no time for anyone else's opinion (especially mine) and you also seem determined to make it totally serious, rather than lighthearted, which is how it started, so there you go, all yours from now on, enjoy yourself.,

Gracesgran Tue 23-Aug-16 00:28:59

Nanabelle you must be a true addictsmile I thought some of them were quite obscure.

suzied Tue 23-Aug-16 07:28:57

Can we get back to discussing the Archers? Can't believe Josh is spending his gap yah ...AT HOME! How many young people do this? Mind you going to University seems to be the death knell for young Archers they always come back with different voices.

Iam64 Tue 23-Aug-16 07:33:41

suzied, one of my three decided on a gap year, after finding A levels a real challenge she wasn't sure University was for her. She stayed at home, worked in retail, in bars and within a very short time was deputy manager at the local pub. That year was great, especially I believe, because she's an end of August birthday. If she'd arrived two weeks late, she'd have been a whole school year lower and one of the oldest in her year, rather than the youngest.
She did have a gap year several years later, lots of travelling and great experience. Maybe Josh will do the same.

LullyDully Tue 23-Aug-16 08:33:27

I got 4!

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