Archers Addicts 5 !!!!!

Not the millennials in my family and friendship circle GracesGran. There have always been young people who are rude and dismissive to their parents but Pip takes the biscuit in expecting her parents to replace the profit she 'lent' to her boyfriend.
Johnny is a millennial and he's a joy !

Please don't attack me for making a comment about a character who did, indeed, grow up as part of the millennial generation and, just as you and I were influenced by the time we grew up in, will have been influenced by her 'time'. This does not mean all 'bad' for any generation, it just means your character is influenced, sometimes more, sometimes less, by the time you grew up in. If you feel it is all nonsense please 'attack' the phycologists who did the research - not me!

Because I am reading a lot at the moment about educating the millennial generation it is probably at the front of my mind but I had no intention to insult your millennials or, indeed 'Pip'. More to the point I would suggest that each generation can be difficult for another to understand as they were just not influenced by the same things.

In this list you can see that the characteristics are neither all positive or all negative but rather influences one of which - because of the way their parents and grandparents brought them up - is "They have been told over and over again that they are special, and they expect the world to treat them that way.", and you can see how difficult this can be for millennials going out into the world - including ours who are also a joy.

I wasn't attacking you GGM2and apologise if you thought I was. I accept we're all influenced by the time in which we 'grow up' but I'm not comfortable with any number of gransnet/mumsnet/daily mail articles which seek to set one generation against another.

I agree about the generation against generation bit but I think they will have to write this generation as it finds the world. It's interesting that the Fairbrother boys are not in secure work but none of the young people are really going 'out to work' - other than Alice - but being subsumed into the farms so we are not really seeing this come through yet. In an older generation I wish they had let Cathy stay in teaching.

"Attack" ? Bit strong.

I hope the SWs are not going to stick doggedly to the line that only entitled young farmers succeed.

Ed is a hard working man with a family to support but his cattle had to be stolen and the ram that he had such high hopes for is producing weakling lambs.

It's time they stopped giving all the breaks to pampered brats like Pip.

It was phoenix. I meant it rather more with a smile on my face than it comes over on paper.

The wheel of fortune goes both up and down and you are right Merlot, it would good to see Ed get a break. He has so little capital and I wonder if it is the feeding rather than the ram. They could really do without Eddy's 'good ideas' too. Will they even be able to continue paying the rent? Emma seems pretty fed up too.

Lilian, dear.....It's pronounced Ascutt, not Ascot which is a common water heater.

And you'd better get a move on if you want to do the Gold Cup!

Oh, Lilian!

I thought she wasn't sure. She certainly needs more wooing if she is going to be persuaded.

Exactly as per my prediction - pauses to polish nails!

A very enjoyable Friday night cliffhanger so far as Lilian and Justin are concerned.
Tragedy and pestilence at Brookfield, I wouldn't like to be in Pip's shoes when her part in the current cow problems is made known.

I looked at Lowfield and they mention Josh's visits to other farms procuring farm machinery as a possible source of infection. I hadn't thought of that so I had another listen to the episode where some of Brookfield's cows escape.

Ed popped them in with some of Tony's beef cattle then rang Pip so it's unlikely the infection came from them because surely Bridge Farm would already be aware of it and therefore so would Alistair?

Josh and Pip will no doubt blame eachother and David has yet to discover what's happened to Pip's profits from the sale of her own cattle.

Great storyline.

Oh dear, silly'un Lilian was only after the adrenaline thrills of an illicit relationship. Poor old Justin now wants to have fairly sedate geriatric outings with his DW. He's very conventional and she may never be that. I don't think she's in love with him at all, it was the thrill of the chase.
Come to think of it the thrill of an illicit secret relationship was Helen enjoyed with Knob when she was 'making jewellery '.
If I'm wrong Juslil may provide the al fresco entertainment on the Ascot course between races.

merlotgran, thanks for that. I'd missed the possibility of Josh as a source of contaminant. Though, you're right, surely if Bridge Farm is the source, they'd know already. I imagine the roof will go off when David discovers that Pip invested her profit in Toby's gin business and that Ruth knew this but didn't tell him. (as the mother of daughters, I confess, I too have been Spartacus)

As for silly's Lillain (great Eirel) I'm beginning to feel a bit sorry for Miranda.

'Lilian' never said she wanted a lifetime with Justin; she was very clear that it was a bit of fun. I agree she is not in love with him and he was a fool to propose in the way he did but (I imagine) in an affair you should both expect that there is a little bending of the truth. It is unlikely that Lillian meant the 'oh no Justin, I don't mind being second to your wife' type of remark. She enjoyed her more permanent relationship with Tiger because there was always the thought that it wasn't and he couldn't quite be trusted. Not how I would want a permanent relationship but it seems to suit some women.

I am sure she is not the first or last person to have a relationship just to have fun with someone she wouldn't really want to marry. On the other hand I got it completely wrong about her getting together with him in the first place so she may decide now is settling down time before it gets too late

Merlot thanks from me to about the ideas re contamination. Lots of flak about to fly I think.

Will there be the money to pay Pip and keep Josh or will they have to leave home? Will David finally make it clear he thinks his mother was right about Toby, and will Pip have a paddy when he says so or ... will Toby's business start to make money and save them all? These questions — and many others — will be answered in continuing episodes of...The Archers

(I watched Soap too much in the 1970s/80s I think)

I've just re-read my post and didn't get it quite right. The first few cows got in with Bridge Farm's cattle but there were some others that Ed put in with Adam's at Home Farm so another possible source of infection.

It would be nice if Pip is brought down a peg or six.

Oh Justin. First you assume that Lilian will marry you without asking. Then you ask her assuming she'll say yes.

I love the picture in this.

I do hope there isn't to be an outbreak of some lethal cow killing virus in Ambridge. As if the flood, followed by stab gate wasn't enough for the residents.

Didn't Alistair mention something about a bovine herpes virus? If that's right the Wikipedia says "Treatment is symptomatic. Anti-inflammatories reduce fever and provide pain relief. Antibiotics may be necessary if a secondary infection occurs."

It also says "Although these symptoms are mainly non-life-threatening it is an economically important disease as infection may cause a drop in production and affect trade restrictions" but I may have misheard so it could be something else altogether.

Talking of building work, Shula -- whatever happened to Darrell? Is he still in the woods??

How soon before Jill casually mentions Pip's buttering up request for a loan?

Lucky them for being able to let their hens out. We're still in a high risk area thanks to being in the flight path to a local nature reserve.