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I actually don't mind Debbie and look forward to her dance.....but I do think they need to cut down on the amount of splits she does now.....

Another Debbie fan here. I’ve heard she works out every day and at her age (59) that certainly shows. Good luck to her. She’s had a lot of nasty, bitchy publicity (eg Mrs Merton) which wasn’t deserved.

On Strictly tonight ( the musicals) some of the lyrics of the songs were changed from the originals or did my ears deceive? I'm relatively new to Strictly but is this normal?

I can't say I pay much attention to the lyrics on strictly.
I'm to engrossed in the dancing.

AyjayF
It's all to do with royalties. If you copy a song to the letter, you pay. If you change it, you don't.

I'm hoping Debbie gets to the final, could hardly watch those lifts and spins last night. Just read that Theresa May is supporting her, which may be the kiss of death though. People who criticise her having ballet training should remember this was over 40 years ago! And its not the same as ballroom. Most of the remaining contestants have also danced on stage in musicals, pop group, stage schools etc.

Debbie didn't just have ballet training suzied she danced professionally in the Iranian ballet for 3 years. She then joined a stage company called Second Generation and danced professionally until at least 1980. So lots of training and professional experience.

1980, that's thirty seven years ago, doubt she continued with those high kicks etc, big difference between 22 and 59

Yes but 1980 is nearly 40 years ago and most of the others also have stage experience in musical theatre etc which includes dancing, plus ballet is not the same as ballroom, so she's had to learn all the dances same as the other contestants.

So she stopped professional dancing before any of the other contestants were born, thats got to put her at a disadvantage. So people moaning about it being unfair should factor that in.

she stopped professional dancing before any of the other contestants were born

Good grief, that makes me feel very, very old. But you're right of course, suzied.

Doesn't mean she stopped training or dancing in her leisure time. Of course having married Paul Daniels she didn't work as a dancer she didn't need to!
It wasn't just ballet . She was part of the Second Generation. Watch them. Recognise the moves?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yJbbQBhiXA

Davood is a complete novice at dancing. I think Joe is too.
Admitedly their acting experience helps with characterization but as Shirley keeps pointing out it's the technical stuff that's important.

I think the lyrics were changed to fit in with the shortened version of the song. I don't think you can tamper with the words to avoid paying royalties; they collect on anything within fifty years copyright. I thought some of the singing was more than normally dreadful, and the whole programme last night didn't seem as slick as normal; several uncomfortable gaps.

Joe has been in musical theatre

I still think age is a factor as well not just dancing (in)experience.

I've just checked Joe's theatrical history and can't see any sign of musical theatre except 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Apart from that he has been in straight dramas. I think he will now get the Scottish vote now that Susan is out of the running - if she ever was! Not only has he made tremendous progress as a dancer, but he has an appealing, cheerful personality.

I think Davood could go tonight

I do not think that Alexandra is well liked - somehow I just do not like her. I can see herself, Debbie and Joe in the final whereas I would prefer to see Debbie, Davood and Joe.

It may be a long time since Debbie danced professionally but one never forgets where and how to place one's arms and pointing one's feet. I have never forgotten and I have rarely danced since my teens.

Its not just about knowing how to point the toes, its the stamina needed for the hours of training.

you could be right kitty wpuld be a shame as he's done so well.
Everyone is expecting Debbie to be in the final, personally I don't want her there and would love to see peoples reaction if she isn't.

Knowing to place arms and feet in ballet is not knowing to place arms and feet in ballroom

Everyone is expecting Debbie to be in the final, personally I don't want her there and would love to see peoples reaction if she isn't

nothing like taking pleasure in others misfortune is there?

The person I would least like to see in the final is Alexandra as I can't warm to her either. Not too keen on Mollie either - she and AJ have more than their fair share of shiny teeth.

If ballet is so differnt to ballroom as some are saying is Darcy Bushell really the right person to judge Strictly? Now she only ever danced ballet.