Prince Charles

Sparklefizz the end doesn't justify the means. And the monarchy may well have changed but it doesn't change what they did in the past to acquire their wealth and power. I don't understand people treating one family as if they are the most important people in the land. Why are people blind to this. I will never understand.

I think it's a rather trying way of saying that someone is born to it as opposed to being voted for!

You can keep them!!

maryeliza what do you mean "goes to the ballot box rather than the vagina" ? I don't get it.

Why set up such a dichotomy niggly? Presidents come in all sorts of constitutional guises - or didn’t you realise that?

Having a president ( like the Irish or the Germans) as a head of state is much much cheaper than the RF but much more importantly is a sign of a democratic grown up nation that goes to the ballot box rather than the vagina. However, sadly that will not come to pass. But I don’t see why we can’t hsve a much more Scandinavian type of RF.

Tbh, for some people whatever Charles did wouldn't be good enough, so its not really worth discussing. I would certainly far in a way prefer a well meaning King as head of state than a power grabbing President. Yes you can exchange him/her every few years, but the inevitable like for like isn't attractive! ?

I agree with Jalima's post above. They are the best value for money etc....

annep How many tourists would come to see a president and spend their money in the UK? People fly in from all over the globe for Royal events.

DH is a historian, I think he still thinks they are best value for money and avoids many elections which may not remain apolitical - and would cost more in the long term.

We have a benign monarchy now, unlike many of those over the centuries.

Funding a President would not cost what maintaining the RF costs. They may well give money but its not their money. The system of having a Monarchy and all that it entails is just so wrong.. I don't know how anyone who has read history books can disagree.

If I won the lottery, which I won’t because I don’t play it, I would buy a car, buy my three grandchildren houses and buy a house for me to be free of council officials having the right to inspect my home, even my bedroom.

You wouldn’t Gilly?

I think you’re forgetting the extended family Annie and strangely none of them work to keep themselves ( nor will they ever) why should they?

You surely don’t need me to tell you how flying round the world as often as they all do , driving or being driven in gas guzzling cars ( I know Charlie has just treat himself to, or been given cute little electric Jaguar to show willing ha ha ) running several large homes, Eating and drinking lavishly as they do and then spouting about saving the bloomin’ planet is hypocrisy at its worst!

annep. No I meant punish , sorry if I wasn’t clear .

Can we realy claim this family do not share their wealth ? They do give money but will not announce it to the world.

If we had a president our taxes would fund him / her

Gilly, he has two children and three grandchildren,soon to be four grandchildren, I have/had two children and have three children, most families in each generation have children and grandchildren, you have children and grandchildren too .

How is he hypocritical about the environment?

What humility do you want him to show? This really puzzles me

Anniebach, texts are difficult. I thought you were quoting Jesus and saying we do not have the right to criticise ( let him without sin...) . Better just let it go Its difficult to have a conversation/discussion on line sometimes. I think we are all very divided on the RF. Its understandable when some people have so little and see others with no financial worries which does help one to be happy. For example imagine always being able to have your physician with you. How good would that be? What gets people is that our taxes fund the RF. and please dont tell me they have their own money. Ask yourself where it came from. I think thats the big problem. I dont mind if people are rich if they treat others fairly and share some of their wealth.

Wouldn’t Quennie have to do the same?

I would have him be honest and show some humility. Admit how very indulged and privileged he and his every increasing family are. Stop spouting the environmental hypocrisy (or carry on but then practising what he preaches ) . Not gonna happen though niggly .

A relative of mine has a good job & career because of the Prince’s Trust, many people have jobs within & because of having a Royal family, there are always two sides, fors & against.

Prince Charles will probably always & only be remembered for the Diana days, which is a shame, conversely Diane will always be remembered for the good things she did.
Very few of us are one dimenstional .

So what would you have him do gillybob?! How can he be different? None of can help the family or situation we're born into. We can,however, make the best fist we can of it, and I believe Charles does just that.

It's all so long ago now, the past is the past and there is nothing we, or they, can do to alter it. Yes, lots of mistakes were made as in all families, but we have to look to the future, Charles wishes to be defender of ALL faiths,which imo is excellent.. Yes,he's committed adultery,but I don't think that a merciful 'God' is that unforgiving, no one is completely perfect,and he is as frail and as strong as the rest of us when it comes to sin! I think he and Camilla will make an excellent team, and do us proud as our head of state.

True gilly we will never agree on this . They have privileges I have never had , I have privileges they will never have

Of course they will drive for pleasure ( they have a glut of expensive cars ) Charlie Will potter with his plants of course he will . Is that work though? Nope .
Sorry we will never agree on the subject of this family Annie

Not many of us are complete adorable or completely detestable ,as the song goes, we’re only Human after all ,don’t put your blame on me.
Just like any other family they muddle through the traumas of life as best they can, yes it does help not having to worry about financial stability etc,but they do try to do good as do many of us. If we have a Royal family or don’t , our lives won’t be any different, we will just be left with Politicians ?

But they do other work . How do you know they don’t drive themselves when not on official duties, how do you know they don’t do gardening ? You don’t know .

Annie in my opinion, the royals don’t do work of any kind . Not even for themselves. Drivers, cleaners, chefs, nannies, gardeners, valets, ladies in waiting......