Miriam Margoyles’ programme

Miriam M big fat adventure. Not sure which channel

I saw her trailing the programme on the One Show - but missed it. What’s it called?

The problem for fat people is that the outcome of their addictive behviour is so visible, whereas other people’s problems can be hidden away - eg heavy drinkers or gamers- who don’t get insulted or humiliated .

People are always sympathetic about eating disorders when it’s anorexia or bulimia , but have little compassion for binge or compulsive eaters.As MM said , it’s about the mind .

I really see now what MM meant about the negativity about fat and fat people in society.

Kandinsky between 70 and 74 I have lost 1 stone. It's often harder to lose weight if you have a stressful job. Yes I probably should have done it earlier but it is never too late.

I’m not saying it’s easy, but at 78 it’s a bit late in the day to be worrying about it. If she couldn’t find the motivation to lose weight in her 40’s I’m not sure where she’ll find it now.

I don’t think caring about appearance changes much with age. I’m 80 and I’d be horrified if I got fat. Luckily I don’t put weight on easily, so I can still eat more or less what I like.

I don't think anyone is suggesting it's easy....

If she was that miserable she’d have done something about it years ago.
Oh if it was only that easy.

I think she is great fun. She has that little spark of devilment in her eyes.
I bet that she is quite a nightmare to interview - she says just what she thinks and you never know just when she is going to come out with something that some people will think is inappropriate!
I saw her on the One Show and she said that she had always been fat and had to put up with bullying and name calling for most of her life, but at nearly 80, she knew that her weight was causing her health problems, but that she really didn't see the point in changing much and would rather enjoy what she could, while she could. I would guess that we all make decisions for our selves.

some FAT people are not actually fat. take me i have several underlying health problems thast make me have bloating .no matter what i eat .i bloat after everything i eaten........i have tried dieting .been to slimming clubs because i have dairy/wheat intolence .no spicy stuff no onions ,no eggs. and no yoghurt.i eat plenty salads and fruit .esp cucumber.....its hard to find bread or any food without palm oil in in .palm oil is coconut oil .am allergic to coconut. ........i havent had a mcdonalds since 2 years ago .no pizza...no junk food and yet i still bloat. i work voluntary in charity shop for exercise. i have spinal/slipped disc and several other health issues/kidney function /liver /hernia /IBS all these things make bloat.some people are naturally big.

I've seen the programme. I quite liked MM on it-i don't usually like her.

I agree with those who say she is miserable about her weight. She does seem to lack motivation to do anything about it though. She packed a double-sized portion away when eating with her friend, and then blamed the friend for 'making her" eat it!

I was not convinced by the dancing girls, or the "influencer" or whatever she was. They're young and presumably relatively free of responsibility at the moment. What happens when the strain on their bodies begins to show?

I dont know that it is my MIL is 4 foot 10 ,if she hits 8 stone over the winter she gets in a panic.she is very careful about diet and she exercises everyday,she's 85.She likes to be just over 7 stone but is usually nearer 7 and a half.My mother was the same ,weight obsessed all her life

No, it's not but she has always worried about it but never done anything about it.
It's not losing weight, it's keeping it off that is the most difficult.

However, at 4' 11" it is probably much more difficult than for a person of eg 5' 10"

I don't think it's unreasonable to worry about your weight at 78. Or to be interested in why other people are overweight. I thought she was really interesting and very sympathetic to the people she spoke to. Loved the big girls and their dancing!

She is a charming personality, and her opinions not biased. I found the programme slow and a little boring in places but I believe it is true that obesity is a psychosocial problem.

I sit and eat a packet of crisps or a Magnum sometimes in front of the TV and I know this is due to lack of motivation to do something better .

If she was that miserable she’d have done something about it years ago.
I just think at 78 what’s the point now?
It just seems a bit silly to have a woman pushing 80 talking about her figure.
But I suppose it makes a TV program.

Well, perhaps not so happy as she says the results of her over eating have made her miserable.

Many slim people are in a far worse state of health than MM or any obese person for that matter.
In the 70's an old learned GP who I saw told me in no uncertain terms when my cholesterol was on the high side, that the previous patient, a large lady whose cholesterol was normal because she had fat on her body---I didn't and what fat I did have was circulating and causing problems by adhering in all the wrong places, while hers was static in her behind and not creating mischief.

The moral is, that not all the slim people you see are healthy.
I admired MM for her attitude and to have a healthy appetite will keep her going for a few years yet. At 78 she's doing extremely well. I loved her in the Marigold Hotel series.

I used to have times when I was miserable because no matter what I ate or how much it made no difference to my weight and I've always had a brilliant appetite and digestion and some of my meals would shame a navvie .

She's 78 I think and she does do OK, she seems very fit and active.

At nearly 80 does she really want to change? All that effort and, quite honestly after a lifetime of happy over-eating, to be miserable at having to watch every morsel that she eats?

Well she’s not doing too bad on her terrible overweight issues.
She must be nearly 80?

Ah yes- the Fplan! All that brown rice...

The dietary advice that has been peddled over the years is shocking.

However I still think that if people ate less -much less- the problem we have now wouldn't be as serious.

Unfortunately people still think there's an easy solution which does not involve focus, discipline and willpower, so the problem continues.

Haven't watched the programme yet.

Oh yes Kate I remember most diets well. I enjoyed F plan but remember it made me a bit windy. It felt healthy though. It was the leader of the way for a lot of sensible modern ones. Better than Limits biscuits!!!

Does anyone remember the FPlan (a high fibre diet) which was very popular in the 1970s/80s ?

Portion control is my mantra now.

I love MM ?