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Alice and her drink problem The Archers

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Iam64 Tue 20-Apr-21 18:13:55

I’m finding the story line harrowing.
I realise Alice has a serious drink problem. I wish she and Chris would face reality. Go to their GP, which would trigger health visitor assessment and - tell their parents

NotSpaghetti Sun 02-May-21 15:39:32

... obviously I mean addiction ...I don't think she's struggling with maths problems!

Galaxy Sun 02-May-21 15:13:52

Actually its not a bad idea now I think of it. Kate is fundamentally selfish and Alice needs to be told to put her needs first. Personally I think she needs to be given permission so to speak to leave Chris.

NotSpaghetti Sun 02-May-21 14:54:48

Maybe not Galaxy but she is without a doubt the one who has been off the rails a lot..
That may help Alice who is struggling with the addition.

silverlining48 Sun 02-May-21 14:51:39

It’s about time Kate did learn a few life lessons. As a teenager she was always self centred and rather selfish and has continued that way over many years, I don’t think I have ever heard her apologise, a really irritating character.

As for the Alice story line it will develop over a period of time and yes the issues they have covered, , dementia, coercive control, and now alcoholism as well as modern slavery is dealt with very slowly.

Greeneyedgirl Sun 02-May-21 13:35:25

As regards to Kate I think she is learning a few life lessons herself, late in the day, from Jakob.

Greeneyedgirl Sun 02-May-21 13:34:01

I can see why an alcoholic might not want people to know about their addiction because they are scared and ashamed. I hope as the story line progresses it will emphasise the importance of support for both of them, as they have unrealistic expectations at present. Support needs to be lifelong because of the chronic nature of Alcoholism. I think relapses aren’t uncommon in the early days, and don’t indicate long term failure, if overcome with sufficient professional help and support. Chris really needs help because his understanding will be crucial in supporting Alice, especially if they are to survive as a couple.. Will be interesting to see how it progresses, and may be a help to listeners who also have a problem.

Galaxy Sun 02-May-21 13:16:25

I wouldnt find Kate a supportive person to talk to grin. I have found the Lee life drawing stuff very irritating. TA are really bad at comedy.

Rainwashed Sun 02-May-21 12:48:48

I agree they should tell their relatives and friends that Alice has a drink problem. They may not be that supportive ( but they can hopefully get support
elsewhere), but at least they will know not to offer drink, leave Alice on her own etc. Actually I am surprised Peggy hasn’t at least told Jennifer, I know it would be a breach of trust, but it is such a serious situation.

NotSpaghetti Sun 02-May-21 12:35:30

Regarding the original title, I hope Alice will speak to Kate and find her a support in the future.

NotSpaghetti Sun 02-May-21 12:31:38

I find the idea that Lee/Leigh is "fit" altogether quite extraordinary as he has such a terrible voice!
I'm sorry to say he sounds to me as though stamp collecting would be too much effort.

eGJ Sun 02-May-21 12:12:23

Thanks for restarting Archers thread Iam. Who's going to join me for the Life Class? grin

Nannarose Wed 28-Apr-21 14:42:04

Oh merlotgran - spoiler alert!
I haven't managed to listen to this week's episodes yet! So funny because I was thinking about sending my thoughts to Feedback. Maybe some other disgruntled nurses have already been in touch.
And if they follow this through, Ben doesn't decide against, drop out, go to work abroad or anything else to keep him out of the way, then I'll be delighted. Now, we need Kathy to resume teaching and someone to train as a social worker......
I have been impressed with Emma in recent years - she was an awful self-centred moaner but her trials have had a positive effect on her. She is now just the sort of person that could do well in a caring role.
And yes, I'm sure Rob will turn up!

merlotgran Wed 28-Apr-21 13:55:55

Will they sideline Ben now he's going to follow a career in nursing?

I very much doubt it. hmm

Greeneyedgirl Wed 28-Apr-21 13:19:54

They do often put promising storylines on hold, then resurrect them years later during a lull, when everyone’s forgotten about them. I keep expecting Rob to turn up ?

Iam64 Wed 28-Apr-21 13:08:45

Good point merlotgran. In RL, Natasha would have been furloughed or wfh this past year. Endless opportunities to spen squillions on line

merlotgran Wed 28-Apr-21 13:04:47

Nannarose

Actually, they hate nurses in The Archers. I think there might have been a district nurse about briefly in the 60s. Amy has disappeared since she became a midwife - even though Alice might have found her helpful.
So determined were the scriptwriters to avoid nurses and midwives that they gave one midwife a clunky few minutes on Zoom - then Alice managed to be in a rehab centre with no nurses; give birth with Jim & Jazzer; have doctors undertake nursing & midwifery tasks, and arrange discharge with no follow-up.
So although I agree with OP, I am wondering what plot twists & turns the scriptwriters will come up so that no mental health nurses or health visitors come anywhere near the family.

The scriptwriters must have read your post, Nannarose.
Will it be Ben to the rescue even though he he hasn't started training yet?

Going back to my comment about the women of Ambridge having trials and tribulations heaped upon them, one of my favourite storylines was Natasha's wild spending, credit card debt and the possibility she may be bi-polar like her father.

I hope it hasn't been swept under the carpet like a lot of promising plots.

silverlining48 Sun 25-Apr-21 16:07:41

There was a thread a while ago but TA stopped at Covid and when it came back it was truly dire . Thank goodness it’s almost back to normal now and life returns to Ambridge.

Galaxy Sun 25-Apr-21 15:47:30

Was there an original TA thread on GN? I go on the one on MN but it often takes me days to catch up as it moves quite quickly. Should we start one using this thread? Tries to contain excitement grin

Greeneyedgirl Sun 25-Apr-21 15:44:39

Thanks for the post Iam. Good to know TA fans are still around. I miss the goss on the original Archers post.

I think the storyline about Alice has been done well, and her story reminds me of some families I was involved with, with young children, where one or both parents were alcohol or substance misusers. So difficult and sadly often ends in grief all round.

On a brighter note I just love that Jazzer and Tracey have got together.

silverlining48 Fri 23-Apr-21 08:12:23

The Jack dementia story started when my mum was diagnosed. He ‘died’ just after my mum nearly ten years later.
The Helen/rob coercion story was also long and in real time which TA do so well. The Alice alcohol story will probably follow similar pattern. It has more impact than most soaps where serious problems are resolved in weeks.

Iam64 Fri 23-Apr-21 07:07:58

I appreciate the real life time, the way a story line develops slowly. Your point about feeling sad about a character you don’t particularly like, made me think of line of duty. Good writing shows the complexity of personalities,

Galaxy Thu 22-Apr-21 21:59:57

Ages ago when they were building the drinking storyline, there were a few mentions of someone at work, there was something off about the way she talked about that person. Sometimes TA drives me mad but then I find myself feeling really sad about a character I dont even really like. It's very good at that kind of thing. That and friendship, I think they do that really well too.

Iam64 Thu 22-Apr-21 21:44:25

Galaxy I expect you’re right. That drunken attempt at seduction isn’t likely to have been an isolated incident

Galaxy Thu 22-Apr-21 18:43:41

I suspect she has done some things that she is finding difficult to cope with. I dont think the Harrison incident will be unique.

NotSpaghetti Thu 22-Apr-21 18:36:48

Of course now she's given up breastfeeding she has no "excuse" not to drink at the forthcoming christening...