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'Viewpoint' on ITV and Noel Clarke

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Chestnut Fri 30-Apr-21 14:02:32

Anyone watching this? ITV face pressure to axe the last episode tonight because of the sexual harassment claims around the lead actor Noel Clarke.
So should they go ahead and show the last episode? After all, viewers have committed their time to watching the series, and the other actors should be considered too. Or should they axe it because it's not appropriate? He hasn't been charged, so is this trial by media?
My view is the former, to consider the viewers and other actors and not jump the gun as no charges have yet been made.
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Callistemon Fri 30-Apr-21 16:04:13

Yes, true

welbeck Fri 30-Apr-21 16:03:31

they'll still get paid.
i think they'll probably prefer not to be further associated with him now. could harm their own brand, and opportunities.

Callistemon Fri 30-Apr-21 15:57:07

GillT57

I fail to see how stopping a series at the penultimate episode is solving anything. All it does is punish the other actors in the series.

Agree - it's filmed, edited and that is not fair on other cast members.

Callistemon Fri 30-Apr-21 15:56:03

I've never heard of him or the series.

(Head in the sand)

Callistemon Fri 30-Apr-21 15:55:05

The Daily Mail do like to exaggerate things like this.

I thought it was in The Guardian first?
www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/apr/29/actor-noel-clarke-accused-of-groping-harassment-and-bullying-by-20-women

The DM was a bit slow there.

GillT57 Fri 30-Apr-21 15:53:12

I fail to see how stopping a series at the penultimate episode is solving anything. All it does is punish the other actors in the series.

welbeck Fri 30-Apr-21 15:49:11

if she's a friend it may be hard for her to accept that he is not as nice as she thought.

Chestnut Fri 30-Apr-21 15:41:57

Here we go: An actress friend, who asked not to be named, said the 45-year-old actor, writer and director's fall from grace is because 'no one likes it when a man of colour gets to the top'.
That is a blatant example of what is called 'playing the race card'. People may not like that term but it does sometimes ring true.

suziewoozie Fri 30-Apr-21 15:40:21

tanith

Apparently ITV are putting the final episode on ITV Hub for a limited time for those who wish to seek it out. I hope those of you that want to have access to the Hub.

Hub easily accessible if in UK. Neat solution imo.

tanith Fri 30-Apr-21 15:38:32

Apparently ITV are putting the final episode on ITV Hub for a limited time for those who wish to seek it out. I hope those of you that want to have access to the Hub.

TerriBull Fri 30-Apr-21 15:37:52

Yes I agree GG, four evenings viewing wasted, although rather a slow burner, I wanted to see it through to it's conclusion.

I always liked Noel Clarke sad but will reserve judgement.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 30-Apr-21 15:24:15

No idea what the details are.

Trial by media should be a crime in itself.

Four evenings viewing wasted ?

Chestnut Fri 30-Apr-21 15:22:37

Oh my goodness, so it wasn't just a few Twitterati complaints, it was a genuine concern. I think that was wrong to cancel. But in these days of pc wokeness gone mad no-one wants to take the slightest risk of offending anyone. I feel sorry for the viewers and the actors and crew who have worked hard on the production.

suziewoozie Fri 30-Apr-21 15:18:25

tanith

ITV have now cancelled the last episode, not surprising.

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Chestnut Fri 30-Apr-21 15:17:53

The false accusers are really scum of the earth, because not only do they ruin an innocent person's life but they make it hard for genuine accusers who have actually been wronged.

Vickysponge Fri 30-Apr-21 15:17:27

Sorry don’t know why BBC got into my reply!!

suziewoozie Fri 30-Apr-21 15:17:07

Chestnut

I do think in this particular case it would have been difficult to keep his identity hidden until he was charged because there are so many other people involved. Not only the many accusers but everyone else he worked with, or is working with. I feel it's very wrong to have trial by media but in this day and age it can in some cases be hard to avoid.

Yes I think this is very fair comment - I honestly don’t know if there’s a solution. I wish there were.

The CR case was appalling - based on a tip off from the police to the BBC and with no investigation at all it appears, just ‘fishing’.

tanith Fri 30-Apr-21 15:16:55

ITV have now cancelled the last episode, not surprising.

Vickysponge Fri 30-Apr-21 15:16:36

ITV are not going to BBC show the last ep of Viewpoint.

Vickysponge Fri 30-Apr-21 15:10:47

Chestnut

I do think in this particular case it would have been difficult to keep his identity hidden until he was charged because there are so many other people involved. Not only the many accusers but everyone else he worked with, or is working with. I feel it's very wrong to have trial by media but in this day and age it can in some cases be hard to avoid.

Yes, look what happened to Cliff Ritchard. It nearly finished him off and he was completely innocent.

Chestnut Fri 30-Apr-21 15:04:05

I do think in this particular case it would have been difficult to keep his identity hidden until he was charged because there are so many other people involved. Not only the many accusers but everyone else he worked with, or is working with. I feel it's very wrong to have trial by media but in this day and age it can in some cases be hard to avoid.

suziewoozie Fri 30-Apr-21 14:58:53

Can you explain how you would have managed the risk of the safety of young women working with him in the interim?

Chestnut Fri 30-Apr-21 14:56:29

Ilovecheese

Hmm so this chap is the victim of 20, yes 20, malicious accusers?

I never said he was a victim. But others are, and it's one law for everyone so that would include him.

suziewoozie Fri 30-Apr-21 14:47:47

Oopsadaisy1

He isn’t a Policeman, Teacher, Doctor or Social Worker though is he?

He stands up, dressed up and recites words that others have written for him.

It may well all be true, but he should have remained anonymous.

The problem with anonymity when you are a public figure of some kind is very difficult. I’m not saying that's right just that it’s difficult. I don’t know why he was named.

Vickysponge Fri 30-Apr-21 14:47:07

Chestnut

This trial by media has got to stop. Allegations are not enough to condemn anyone, as we've seen so often in the past. It should be illegal to name anyone before the Police have charged them. I know they like to encourage other victims to come forward, but it's just possible the one accused is a victim of malicious accusers. It is not worth the risk if it ruins an innocent man's life.

Couldn’t agree more. Well said!