Kate Garraway and her husband

theworriedwell lets hope you are never in the position of being the sole wage earner and needing to pay for the care for a severely disabled person, support two children and your career is in an industry where the best way of doing these things is to talk about the problems your family are going through.

Need drives many people to do things they would otherwise not contemplate.

Yes, see what Covid can do, worriedwell
It devastates people's lives.

theworriedwell

*GG13 I totally agree Derek has lost his ability to earn the living he was earning before he took ill and Kate G has to manage all the finances and look after their children's future she is doing what is best for her family.* Great, he's lost the ability to make a living so sell him to the highest bidder, invade his privacy he can't work so who cares.

Another nasty post, have you watched the documentary, heard her or their children speak?

Do you know, I thought he was a TV producer but he's actually a pyschotherapist

I don't think theworriedwell is being nasty. I do understand the discomfort around ethically representing vulnerable people. I really don't think anyone, including Kate is exploiting him though.

Derek was something in the Labour Party (an advisor under Tony Blair I think) he then went on to be a psychotherapist.

Yes I actually think there is a conversation to be had about consent, but that's certainly not what the OP was about, they were basically about being sick of hearing about the story and 'milking it' which is a different thing entirely.

I think if I remember rightly he worked for Peter Mandelson in a spin doctor type role.

Galaxy

I think if I remember rightly he worked for Peter Mandelson in a spin doctor type role.

I think you are correct

Kate said two days ago:
‘He still has very little movement, still can't talk really but he does seem to, I believe and I think others believe now, understands everything.’
She will have spoken to him about what she is doing. I believe what she says, I think he he knows and agrees.

NHS care would mean putting her husband in a nursing home,

She and their children have around the clock access to him, possibly he hears their voices, she can lay by his side when she wants to, possibly he can feel her body next to him.

This couldn’t happen in a nursing home.

M0nica

theworriedwell lets hope you are never in the position of being the sole wage earner and needing to pay for the care for a severely disabled person, support two children and your career is in an industry where the best way of doing these things is to talk about the problems your family are going through.

Need drives many people to do things they would otherwise not contemplate.

I've been the wage earner and carer for my husband for 30 years thanks. I had 4 children though, the youngest was 10 days old when we got the diagnosis.

Anniebach

NHS care would mean putting her husband in a nursing home,

She and their children have around the clock access to him, possibly he hears their voices, she can lay by his side when she wants to, possibly he can feel her body next to him.

This couldn’t happen in a nursing home.

It wouldn't necessarily mean a nursing home. My son has a friend who was paralysed from the neck down in an accident. He has 24/7 care in his own home.

MissAdventure

I dont see Derek as a freak.
He is someone devastated by a virus we are apparently all going to catch.
He is a dad, husband, but never a freak.

I didn't say he was a freak, actually I don't think the people in the Victorian freak shows were freaks either, but people did pay to gawp at them. Haven't we moved on?

None of us know what communication he can or can’t make maybe he can nod or blink or something that she’s learnt to understand we just don’t know Perhaps she tells him exactly what she’s going to do and he squeezers her hand
It’s a sad sad story but she strikes me as a sensible woman who would have her whole family involved in decisions

Casdon

Kate said two days ago:
‘He still has very little movement, still can't talk really but he does seem to, I believe and I think others believe now, understands everything.’
She will have spoken to him about what she is doing. I believe what she says, I think he he knows and agrees.

How does he agree. She is saying she thinks he understands what she is saying and he can't really talk so how is he giving consent. She isn't even sure he understands what she is saying.

She isn't sure if he understands so not sure how you can make that judgement.

BlueBelle

None of us know what communication he can or can’t make maybe he can nod or blink or something that she’s learnt to understand we just don’t know Perhaps she tells him exactly what she’s going to do and he squeezers her hand
It’s a sad sad story but she strikes me as a sensible woman who would have her whole family involved in decisions

She says herself she "Thinks" he understands. She doesn't know and there is no way anyone on here knows.

Galaxy

Yes I actually think there is a conversation to be had about consent, but that's certainly not what the OP was about, they were basically about being sick of hearing about the story and 'milking it' which is a different thing entirely.

Yes you are right but these threads always move on don't they.

I would imagine gaining the ability to communicate is a huge part of his road to recovery.
It will have been worked on just as much as his physical impairments.

Another nasty post, have you watched the documentary, heard her or their children speak?

Yes I've heard her speak, no issue with that. My issue is a man who is in no position to give informed consent to being filmed and that being broadcast. He has a right to privacy and dignity.

Sorry I've worked in a managerial role in care for many years, the absolute fundamental thing is to remember that the patient has a right to privacy and to have their dignity respected. I don't see that.

Would you want to watch a programme about all the rigmarole of ensuring someone's ability to consent?
It's a process, I'm sure you know.

the worried well I don’t think you read what she said? She believes he understands, that’s not the same as thinking he believes. I do wonder if you watched the programme or just shoot from the hip.

Sorry, thinking she believes not he.

Michael Schumacher wife has shown far more dignity.

I think enough is enough. She’s made her point.

Theworriedwell you ve no idea what he can or can’t understand nor have I, but I bet his wife has a much clearer idea than either of us, so let’s presume she knows him better than us eh
Not for us to judge is it?