Our Yorkshire Farm

The kids seemed to enjoy the local bonfire /fireworks display this weekend but poor Clive looked very lost.

I thought last night’s episode was filmed last summer. The fact that Amanda was not in it so much probably is a coincidence.

I think I read somewhere that children are cooking on good morning Britain to day.

I thought the same, travelsafar. The children seemed just as happy and carefree but I thought the younger ones looked quite unkempt - not just their usual ‘life on a farm’ scruffiness.

I felt upset watching tonight now we know what is happening. Clive was constantly with the children and there seemed an element of sadness about him or did I imagine it. ?

Amanda has been wearing lots of jewellery and make up just lately which doesn’t exactly gel with a busy farmer, or did she always do this?

Just feels all false now and yes i feel his 2 children should have some acknowledgement whether it be on the show or newsfeeds/write-ups etc, but theres been nothing.

theveganreview.com/why-people-get-angry-vegan-hate-discrimination/

Then, there's 'tradition' - always trotted out as an excuse. Why not support all the hideous ones? Human sacrifice, bull fighting, fox hunting, cannibalism, infanticide etc. - all 'traditional'.

nightowl, We're well used to these OTT guilt reactions. They don't want to be reminded that what's on their plate has anything to do with animal cruelty.

Of course, it's all so removed, now. Few would go out and torment, then slaughter any animal. No problem, though, they can close their minds (mostly) let others do that - and buy a piece of it, neatly wrapped, at the supermarket!

I don't know, I tend to think if she is a barmaid and her husband is a factory worker and they had their kids pretty young by the look of it, maybe they need the money? It sounds like he has been pretty absent in her life, so maybe she felt she had nothing to lose. Families are often complicated

And as for his daughter, well he was there to give her away at her wedding as pictures have shown. But as it was her day he may have said none of the rest of the family to be photographed as he knows what would happen.

I also find it strange that she has really only just started coming out of the woodwork since the family have become famous.

Clive did mention his eldest son, and does now and again, he is running their other farm. And he may not want to be in the programme or mentioned as he knows how the media will hound him..as they are doing with Amanda and Clive at the moment.

And has anyone considered that she moved into the rental property as there was work being done on their kitchen, it has been done up, and she was writing a book so wanted peace and quiet to do this. We don't know that she didn't go into the main farmhouse at night etc.. Unless someone is camped out on their doorstep permanently then a lot of it is what is seen in a miniscule moment.

Lucca

That makes 11…..

Yes I can do the maths my point was that 2 of them are not mentioned not eleven.

Oh Hetty I could weep. So many doubly standards, so much closing of eyes to animal suffering and brainwashing of children, all because of centuries of ‘tradition’. And yet we’re the ones who are cynical with something to be ashamed of apparently.

BlueSapphire I’m with you, almost too good to be true…

I didn't find merlogran's comment strange.

Casdon I agree.

Viewing the world from a rather narrow viewpoint (even if you believe it is right) does not invalidate other viewpoints and ways of life which have been traditional for thousands of years.

Thank you, Hetty58 but I won't be ordering a free 'Go Vegan' pack.

Scones

To me Amanda and Clive both seem like very hard working people who have been devoted to each other, their children and their farm. Any success they've had has been due to their hard work and the fact that their lives have captured our imagination and admiration.

I'm sorry they are having such a hard time at the moment. We've all surely had hard times in our own ways. I hope they find a way through it.

This….

But Hetty58 you are seeing this from your own unique perspective as we all do. Being a vegan doesn’t give you additional insight into how the the world works and the merits and downsides of farming and it’s impact on children, although I appreciate that you may think it does.

merlotgran, what a strange comment! I don't have to be an expert to see suffering. Hill sheep farming is cruel:

www.animalaid.org.uk/the-issues/our-campaigns/animal-farming/suffering-farmed-sheep/

Then there's the psychological damage to those poor children.

To me Amanda and Clive both seem like very hard working people who have been devoted to each other, their children and their farm. Any success they've had has been due to their hard work and the fact that their lives have captured our imagination and admiration.

I'm sorry they are having such a hard time at the moment. We've all surely had hard times in our own ways. I hope they find a way through it.

JaneJudge

No one would comment at all if she was a man and having to work away

Not commenting on the fact she's working away from home more so about the fact their marriage is on the rocks, we would say the same if it was Clive living away from the farm and all this gossip came out.

Grandmagrim

JaneJudge

well it just goes to show, you can live on one of the most remote farms in the country and your neighbours still spy on you and gossip

Neighbours have been biting tongues for a very long time, no spying required.

sounds pleasant

Staying on a farm hardly makes you an expert on farming practices, Hetty58.

JaneJudge

well it just goes to show, you can live on one of the most remote farms in the country and your neighbours still spy on you and gossip

Neighbours have been biting tongues for a very long time, no spying required.

What's this about Amanda and Garry?