Alec Baldwin - guns

In films they can have special effects for everything plane crashes buildings falling, volcanos erupting men from outter space arriving I CANNOT believe that guns have to fire to be authentic Are they saying in 2021 they cannot find a sound to coincide with a gunshot

Yes, so much is possible now.

BlueBelle

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I don't think its right that people are speculating that he has anger issues or that he deliberately pointed the prop gun at someone.

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I can’t understand how two people got involved one dead one injured were two bullets discharged ?
It all seems terribly murky
In films they can have special effects for everything plane crashes buildings falling, volcanos erupting men from outter space arriving I CANNOT believe that guns have to fire to be authentic Are they saying in 2021 they cannot find a sound to coincide with a gunshot
My oh my

I can’t understand how two people got involved one dead one injured were two bullets discharged ?
It all seems terribly murky
In films they can have special effects for everything plane crashes buildings falling, volcanos erupting men from outter space arriving I CANNOT believe that guns have to fire to be authentic Are they saying in 2021 they cannot find a sound to coincide with a gunshot
My oh my

I can’t understand how two people got involved one dead one injured were two bullets discharged ?
It all seems terribly murky
In films they can have special effects for everything plane crashes buildings falling, volcanos erupting men from outter space arriving I CANNOT believe that guns have to fire to be authentic Are they saying in 2021 they cannot find a sound to coincide with a gunshot
My oh my

I presume it was a tragic accident but Baldwin has had anger issues and allegedly assaulted a photographer years ago. One of his wives divorced him citing abuse and his inability to control his temper.

Why someone known to have such issues was allowed to handle a lethal weapon on a film set is a question that will need to be answered.

I am a bit sceptical about this too. Why was he firing at someone who wasn't part of the scene in the film?

Why would it need to be capable of firing anything with sound effects and cgi available.

Similar to what I was thinking - in fact I thought they could use an unloaded prop gun and add in sound effects later.

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I don’t really want to speculate too much, but I do know quite a lot about firearms.

Most filmmakers will use a ‘real’ gun to get the realistic noise, recoil and muzzle flash when fired.

There are a number of reasons why the gun may have previously held live ammunition.

It is quite easy for a live round to be left in the chamber, e,g, if there has been a misfire and the round has jammed, or if the gun is semi automatic and the magazine is removed, but not the already chambered live round. In either of those circumstances the blank would also fire the live round.

Many filmmakers are now using cgi to get the desired effects.

A full investigation will reveal the truth.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59006905 this has some interesting information. These prop guns sound dangerous. How two people were shot is another question. Why aim at people? With all the camera trickery available these day there should be no need for such risk.

We have no idea who was to blame or who was innocent though do we ?
all we know is a loaded gun was discharged at a young lady who was not a member of the cast
So who loaded it and why did Baldwin aim it at a female photographer? Two main questions before anyone assumes Baldwin is innocent, hopefully he is and it was a simple accident but they are two big questions that need answering it wasn’t part of whatever scene it was, to point it at a camera lady
And how come two people were injured one fatally one in hospital

I wondered the same Bluebell just why would a prop gun be loaded with ammunition. How awful for the unfortunate woman who lost her life and sympathy for AB, to know that someone has died at his hands, albeit unintentional and a complete accident, it would still weigh heavily.

Unbelievable! Surely they can make prop guns that can’t fire bullets? My dad always taught me never ever point a gun at anyone unless you mean to shoot them, even if you have just unloaded the gun.

It's a terrible tragedy. Alec Baldwin will probably be haunted by this for the rest of his life.

Why would it need to be capable of firing anything with sound effects and cgi available.

The only time I have seen real guns was outside Parliament and honestly they just looked plastic.

What an awful tragedy for all involved

I’ve regoogled. 43rd fatal shooting since 1990.

There has certainly been a previous fatality.

Without re Googling it there have been 40+ accidental shootings on film sets so it’s more than just a freak accident. How tragic though.

Why would a prop gun be loaded with real ammunition ?
Surely that’s the question Who loaded it Baldwin himself or a prop man/woman and obviously it was not discharged in a practice scene or else another actor would have been killed why a photographer ?
JayLucy you say ‘of course they use guns’ It never entered my head that they would use live guns and live ammunition in such scenes why would they ? We have such sophisticated means of making alsorts of fantastical props that seem as real as you and me why not the same for guns
Horrendous… it is manslaughter at the least and cannot be excused

It's awful.

jaylucy

It was in a film set for a film set in the 19th century, where of course they had guns, it is a Western !
It just seems that it was a horrible accident and we really can't make any comments until a full investigation on how it possibly happened is finished.

Of course we can comment.

Surely we don't need to be using real guns, prop or otherwise, that can kill.

‘Prop guns’ are just real guns used as props, fully capable of killing or injuring if loaded with live ammunition. Dreadful for all concerned.