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The Princes and the Press

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Calendargirl Mon 22-Nov-21 17:51:15

Tonight on BBC2. William and Harry’s relationship with the press. Two episodes, tonight’s starts with the Diamond Jubilee and ends with Harry’s wedding.

Episode 2 might be more interesting, after the ‘split’.

GagaJo Tue 30-Nov-21 10:41:32

Well yes, it is. Really, it should have been Hexit. Meghan is American. She was just going home. It was Harry that emigrated. But it's always the female that gets blamed. He is an adult and gets to make his own decisions.

Josianne Tue 30-Nov-21 10:41:09

GagaJo

Harry seems really happy with Meghan and his little family. Can't we just wish them well and stop obsessing about them?

The BBC programmes if nothing else made it evident that it isn't little old you and me as 'we" obsessing about them, it's initially the media, particularly the press. But of course "we" might get sucked in. To hear some of those journalists speaking they obviously live and breathe the stuff.
And of course the next instalment in Harry's books will just perpetuate this in the way that he says he can't abide!

grandMattie Tue 30-Nov-21 10:38:48

Merit = Mexit

grandMattie Tue 30-Nov-21 10:38:24

GagaJo

Harry seems really happy with Meghan and his little family. Can't we just wish them well and stop obsessing about them?

I’d love to do that but why, oh why, do they carry on with their complaints and law suits. If they want peace, can’t they just stay schtumm? Merit is sexist and demeaning, Sussexit is less so? For goodness sake!

GagaJo Tue 30-Nov-21 10:29:12

Harry seems really happy with Meghan and his little family. Can't we just wish them well and stop obsessing about them?

Anniebach Tue 30-Nov-21 10:02:03

Made it up ? surely not

Calistemon Tue 30-Nov-21 10:01:37

theworriedwell

Anniebach

New book written by an American, he knows it was Charles who questioned the skin colour of the baby and he even knows
Camilla’s reply.

Does he explain how he knows? I mean did he bug the house, has he discussed it with Camilla? Or has he listened to gossip or made it up.

A little bird told him

Wonder who?

Calistemon Tue 30-Nov-21 10:00:42

I watched it half-heartedly (whilst doing something else) and did wonder how often Amol would put on an 'Oprah face'.

His jaw didn't drop quite as far as hers in her well-rehearsed reactions but often enough to notice that this wasn't a totally unbiased programme.

shock

theworriedwell Tue 30-Nov-21 09:58:47

Anniebach

New book written by an American, he knows it was Charles who questioned the skin colour of the baby and he even knows
Camilla’s reply.

Does he explain how he knows? I mean did he bug the house, has he discussed it with Camilla? Or has he listened to gossip or made it up.

eazybee Tue 30-Nov-21 09:54:20

not 'to learn that by', simply 'read the lawyer's language.'

eazybee Tue 30-Nov-21 09:52:26

I haven't bothered to watch either programme and doubt if I will, but was fascinated to learn that by the lawyer's language as reported in the Daily Telegraph. After announcing that the Sussexes did not take a vow of silence and become like Trappist monks (if only), therefore not allowed to discuss anything.
What bullying means, apparently is "improperly using power repeatedly and deliberately to hurt someone physically or emotionally, and the D of S has absolutely denied ever doing that. That said, she wouldn't want to negate anyone's personal experiences." But "it is really hard to prove a negative, and to show you had not bullied someone by denying it."
Particularly when they have made formal complaints and are anxious to give evidence.

Josianne Tue 30-Nov-21 08:41:31

Anniebach

New book written by an American, he knows it was Charles who questioned the skin colour of the baby and he even knows
Camilla’s reply.

You will laugh at the 2nd programme Alegrias because in this one the lawyer knows everything too!

Alegrias1 Tue 30-Nov-21 08:37:26

Josianne

That's exactly what the programme showed Alegrias that both princes get their periods of popularity, but that negative stories sell faster and are more lapped up.

Exactly Josianne.

Anniebach Tue 30-Nov-21 08:35:12

New book written by an American, he knows it was Charles who questioned the skin colour of the baby and he even knows
Camilla’s reply.

Josianne Tue 30-Nov-21 08:32:47

That's exactly what the programme showed Alegrias that both princes get their periods of popularity, but that negative stories sell faster and are more lapped up.

Alegrias1 Tue 30-Nov-21 08:23:12

I'm about halfway through the first part of this and I think I must have been watching a different program from everyone else.

How many of us had forgotten that the press used to make William out to be lazy because he wouldn't play the game. Now he does play along with them, he's flavour of the month.

Josianne Tue 30-Nov-21 08:13:40

Methinks it's time for me to take everything the press, the lawyers and the friends say on this issue with a pinch of salt. Time for Harry and Meghan to shut up for good instead of all this recycled claptrap. Nothing achieved and not even remotely interesting.

Shropshirelass Thu 25-Nov-21 09:49:33

I didn’t watch it, I don’t watch any of these, William and Kate seem to have moved over to ITV which says it all.

Forsythia Wed 24-Nov-21 18:55:56

You have to ask yourselves who benefits from this programme and its bias? I think it’s pretty obvious with Meghans lawyer and Omid Scobie on it.

Anniebach Wed 24-Nov-21 18:47:24

Little wonder they wanted to see the documentary before it was aired.

Jabberwok Wed 24-Nov-21 18:34:49

I agree Annie, the clip of him speaking this evening confirmed how much the Bashir interview had upset him. If someone had done that to my mother I would have been more than upset.

Anniebach Wed 24-Nov-21 18:16:20

Considering the dirty dealings carried out for the Diana Panorama interview, poor William

maddyone Wed 24-Nov-21 18:07:28

I didn’t watch it either. I’ve just seen on the BBC news that William and Kate want ITV to show their Christmas Carol Concert following the documentary last night. It has been reported that Buckingham Palace wanted to see the documentary before it was aired, but the BBC refused.

GraceQuirrel Wed 24-Nov-21 18:06:10

Josianne

I watched it lemsip.

There wasn't much new that we didn't already know, or at least suspect. But the reporting angle was very interesting.

I didn't like the presenter. I think he has his own agenda.
Omid Scobie went up in my estimation. He was articulate, collected and I felt genuine.
Harry's anger was painful to watch. It will destroy him if he allows it to continue.

Omid Scobie is a nasty piece of work and on the payroll of Meghan ‘I Am A Duchess’ Markle. He has lied about many things in support of her and her husband and likes nothing better than to slate our queen.

joysutty Wed 24-Nov-21 16:59:34

Fed-up with it all as its getting boring now, as dont know why we cant hear from normal people who have done and helped others in this panademic. They are wealthy in their own right and going for offers for disney or whatever on the Ellen interviews abroad, all for more media attention, as surely there is more important things going on in the world right now, families living on the bread line on low wages/with no jobs. As I have a friend who lives in same village/town as Megans mother who I am told is a lovely lady, and feel at times for Megans father who hasn't seen his own grandchildren for whatever reason of their fall-out. An actress who may still be behaving as an "actress". A person that our younger children/girls may also look up them.