Anyone watching / watched “A very British scandal”?

Yes that’s right ian but I’m honestly not too exercised by the affair - it’s what they do. Although I do find it surprising given his parents history. But I am exercised by the reports of what he was prepared to do to his brother in order to divert the focus.

That I find particularly unpleasant.

Sorry, and the affair is still going on, reported by an Alex Tiffin
a journalist who lives in Scotland,

There is an Alex Tiffin living in Scotland who was chosen to stand for Labour at a Westminster selection but it was then brought to light that he had been charged with a violent assault
against a pregnant woman.

Whitewavemark2

What fascinates is that so little seems to have changed, it is just that they have learned to manipulate the media now more to their advantage.

Look at the reports on how William apparently fed the media with stories about his brother’s wife to take the focus away from his affair with Catherine’s friend.

Not pleasant.

Oh! ???
That must’ve worked because that certainly passed me by.
How awful for Catherine (if true).
She did look awfully thin at one stage, perhaps nerves/distress?

Mind you, I bet Ma Middleton would’ve had his guts for garters! One formidable woman.

Maybe it was all speculation as they seem very happy these days.

It is reported in Scotland, because William got an injunction against reporting it in England.

The reports started in America, and the journalist in Scotland
claims William is still visiting his mistress wearing a face mask

Wonder who started the story in America

vegansrock

This case shows up the whole ridiculousness of the hereditary principle where someone gets a title and gets called “ your grace” or whatever through no achievement of their own, they can be a real DISgrace and still get fawned and forelock tugged at for no good reason. Such titles belong in the middle ages. Let’s hope they die out in the not too distant future.

Deep down I know I feel similar to you vegansrock which is why I seem to dislike NT properties, walking around and hearing people cooing over the place. Even beautiful Chatsworth! It’s grating as in ‘look what we’ve got’. It irritates me on some level. Yet honestly I’m happy in my small life, not envious of wealthy people per se at all. Like you say it must be all this hereditary stuff, passed on to the firstborn so as not to dilute the stash.

Meritocracy could be so much better.

And another bugbear (I must be grumpy this morning on my soapbox!) I hate how their employees are called ‘servants’. ‘Staff’ sounds so much better.

Oh god, Our upstanding William? We’re doomed I tell you.
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Oh no, another outbreak of ageeement with urmstongran ?. I visited Chatsworth for the first time earlier this year. Beautiful grounds but I disliked the house.
I’m not a NT fan, they always seem to have the same kind of awful snobby women working/volunteering.
I also wondered if Kate allegedly weeping during the prep for Harry’s wedding and looking incredibly thin and tense could be linked to her husband’s infidelity, as well as having a small baby

Fwiw, the two if them seem to have worked out a good partnership in their current RF role.

Kathy73

^Donkey stoning the steps and using the privy in the back yard I suppose^
Ooh, you took me back there, Urmstongran! (Brought up in working class Manchester)

??? me to Kathy - Old Trafford big terraced houses (huge and rented - beautiful property if in a different postcode!). My sister and I even shared one big room downstairs for all our toys & when our small friends in the street called for us we all went into the ‘playroom’. Ha! Sounds so middle class doesn’t it? I remember the rent man calling with his little book. At least we never had to hide behind the sofa! Idyllic childhood, my parents were wonderful. I’ve always felt secure and loved.

This posh lot have so much materially - a car, horses, huge estates, champagne on tap ... but so little in some ways.
I ❤️ my life so no envy on my part.
Just irritation.

Oh no, another outbreak of ageeement with urmstongran

I’m an easy going sort of Pollyanna Iam you’d maybe quite like me in real life.
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There has never been any proof that William had an affair, and I think it's unfair and irresponsible to be speculating and gossiping about it on a public forum.

Urmston, same here.

I've never envied the aristocracy. Living their empty lives in huge, cold, hard to maintain, unfriendly houses? No thanks. I once read a quote, 'To pay back an enemy simply leave them a large country house'.

I've just been reading about the late Lady Jeanne Campbell, the Duke's daughter from his first marriage. Her life seems to have been as chaotic and sordid as the rest of them.

When does the vicious cycle end?

Iam you speak of ‘William’s infidelity’, you know it’s true !

The drama under discussion, just like The Crown, is a work of fiction based on some fact, as is most of what we read in our newspapers, see on our television news programmes and pick up on our Twitter feeds. I prefer not to believe anything unless I have first hand knowledge of all the facts.
I am referring to so called celebrity and royal gossip of course NOT to suffering in Afghanistan or world poverty.

Anniebach

Iam you speak of ‘William’s infidelity’, you know it’s true !

Ok alleged infidelity

LauraNorderr

The drama under discussion, just like The Crown, is a work of fiction based on some fact, as is most of what we read in our newspapers, see on our television news programmes and pick up on our Twitter feeds. I prefer not to believe anything unless I have first hand knowledge of all the facts.
I am referring to so called celebrity and royal gossip of course NOT to suffering in Afghanistan or world poverty.

In this case, the 'some fact' is court reports and newspaper articles of the day, though. It's not like King Arthur or Vikings .

Facts from newspaper articles!

The writer had access to court reports etc. But they would only have told her what was said in Court, not what the actual truths were.
She also wasn't privy to all the stuff that wasn't part of the court case, including private conversations, family events etc.
So the drama was based on the two parties versions of events as presented in Court, the media's interpretation of those reports, gossip, rumours and tittle tattle at the time, and the differing memories and viewpoints of those still alive and willing to talk to her.

So presumably contained some facts, some fiction and some material that fell in between.

I agree with you Urmstongran no envy just irritation. I do like wandering round NT properties though hearing the history even if I dislike it. And the walks are pleasant and I feel safe alone.
I do remember taking my MiL round Mountstewart once and she tutted very loudly at everything the guide told us. Funny now on looking back.

I have never heard of William's affair. I'm shocked. Is there proof I wonder.

Anniebach

Facts from newspaper articles!

Fair comment . But in amongst the speculation would be facts, as in what happened when - their marriage, their previous spouses and divorces and so on.

Thanks Beswitched, that was my point but you made it more clearly.

Yes Doodledog but not their private conversations and most of the series was just that.