I haven’t watched the documentary yet but I fully intend to. I could never ever stand Jeremy Kyle after I watched about half an hour of one of his shows I never watched anything again but it doesn’t surprise me at all what’s coming out about him now, I always thought he was a vile man the way he spoke to people on that program, it was like a modern day freakshow really and a bloody disgrace …
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Where is Graham, the psychologist from JK Show
(31 Posts)Watching the prog re Jeremy Kyle but there’s no mention of Graham?? I find that strange. Anyone else?
At least two more guests killed themselves after appearing on the show, one 36 year old woman killed herself after her husband was encouraged by Kyle to end their marriage. As well as the suicides some guests suffered mental health problems after appearing on the show, one woman said her husband didn’t leave his bedroom fir two years. After the show ended Kyle appeared on a few chat shows giving self pitying interviews. Six years ago I went with my granddaughter to an open day at the university of Surrey, many staff we met were saying that Kyle was an alumni of the university and there were a few pictures of him on the walls. I would imagine they keep quiet about it now.
I think the second part of the documentary was yesterday…
I ve now watched both and a more damming programme would be hard to find Graham as a trained counsellor and psychotherapist was a complete and utter waste of time and in my opinion as guilty as Kyle because he didn’t protect those people at all he appeared very ineffectual and just trotted around behind Kyle like a wimp he didn’t have the peoples backs in any way Kyle was far more bullying than I realised in the few shows I d seen
I was very surprised to hear one of the producers (a young lady) also committed suicide after the gentleman’s death That was kept quiet or did I just miss it
I watched the first part of the Netflix documentary last night. Two people who worked on the show said that it was originally The Trisha Show but when Kyle took over it changed very much. They were under huge pressure to find people to appear in the show, often working until very late at night and for the guests who appeared they were pressurised to make them say and do things that would make ‘good tv’. Regarding Graham, he was interviewed but was very defensive saying he was accountable for what he did but couldn’t be accountable for anybody else’s behaviour. As a professional in the caring profession I feel it was his responsibility to challenge anything that he felt unethical and he failed in that respect. I am glad the show ended and that nothing of that nature has replaced it.
Yes, you are right Doodledog.
JaneJudge
I can't remember Trisha being exploitative or Vannessa Feltz tbh. Jeremy Kyle seemed to want to be an English Jerry Springer?
I found an old article
www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9076315/jeremy-kyle-lost-plot-trisha-goddard/
That article is basically Trisha trying to distance herself from the whole debacle, though.
I think that any show that relies on disadvantaged people being televised in return for a DNA test or the chance of therapy is exploitative. I can't remember if Trisha offered DNA tests (I rarely watched either, but have seen both programmes), but encouraging people to talk about affairs, or drug addiction, or family problems and then go back to their home towns where they will be left to deal with gossip and ridicule is irresponsible.
The children of the 'guests' would suffer too, by always being known as 'the one whose mum is an alcoholic who had an affair with the drug-addicted neighbour', or whatever. To the show makers the guests may be interchangeable, but the consequences for them as individuals may well be lifelong.
I don't think any such shows are aired now, which is for the best (maybe the nearest is the 'hilarious' early auditions in talent shows), but they used to be commonplace, and tied to the toxic 'poke fun at so-called 'chavs' ' culture that went with them.
According to write ups Graham was a MHN when he first started out in life then did masters in psychology and counselling and then turned to tv work he probably isn’t affiliated to any particular service provider or else it would have said He’s done NHS work during CoviD but not sure in what capacity
I can't remember Trisha being exploitative or Vannessa Feltz tbh. Jeremy Kyle seemed to want to be an English Jerry Springer?
I found an old article
www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9076315/jeremy-kyle-lost-plot-trisha-goddard/
When he worked as a volunteer for the NHS, I doubt that it was in the role of a psychotherapist.
Reports say that he was a ‘volunteer responder’
Did he? Good grief! He should have held his hands up, got down on his knees and and apologised, as he was fond of telling his guests to do.
He really does seem to be a dreadful specimen, but I have a nagging feeling that he is a scapegoat for a more general malaise. At the time of his show there were others too - Trisha springs to mind - and a lot of demonising of so-called ‘chavs’. JK was part of this phenomenon, and he was just the presenter - ITV more generally should probably be held to account, as should the viewers, who are complicit too, at least up to a point.
It’s no wonder Jeramy Kyle went to court to get this program stopped. Vile person ?
Yes, as I said, there is a register of members of the professional body, but no regulation over who calls themselves a therapist.
If he’s worked for the NHS as a psychologist he would have to be registered with a professional body. Once registered you should always work ethically. JK Show was no where near those standards. The body should have struck him off.
Phychologists and counsellors have to be registered with a body and rules and regulations within these organisations are strict and they can get struck off However anyone can set themselves up as a therapist so whether Graham is a bone fide physiologist or just calls himself one we don’t know sounds as if that may well be the case
Doodledog
Yes, qualified psychologists are unhappy with the situation too. There is a list of registered ones (who are qualified and regulated), but that doesn’t stop charlatans from calling themselves therapists.
I have no idea about this ether
It is weird that Graham isn't mentioned. I felt sorry for all of them, you could tell the people featured were vulnerable. My husband really didn't get the fact the people retelling the manipulation were actors though!
Yes, qualified psychologists are unhappy with the situation too. There is a list of registered ones (who are qualified and regulated), but that doesn’t stop charlatans from calling themselves therapists.
Doodledog you are quite correct regarding regulations and psychotherapy.
I have just had a short Google.
It is absolutely disgusting.
Speaking as someone who has had more than one extremely unsatisfactory experience with therapists; I find this scary and very wrong.
I’m not sure that psychotherapists are regulated though.
How can he distance himself from the documentary? I doubt Kyle wanted to be in it either, but the evidence and footage is there for all to see, so he couldn’t stop it. There is a second episode on tonight though - maybe Graham is in that.
I remember reading an article about the show years ago, which explained how the researchers whipped up the guests against one another before putting them on stage. They had no regard for the mental health of the people they claimed to help, or of how they would cope when they went back home, and neighbours had seen their ‘dirty washing’.
I really felt for the mother of the heroin addict. She had clearly acted out of desperation, and telling her that they were competing with other families for detox was so cruel.
Yes. I would have thought that he’d be struck off, and unable to practice as a psychotherapist.
He’s even brought the profession into disrepute.
There must be some comeback?
Haven’t watch it as yet but I would imagine he’s trying to distance himself although surely he must hold a lot of blame as being the resident professional surely he should have been the one to change any bad practices
Surely he’s the main man to blame seems strange that he s not
Ah right. You were talking about the documentary.
I was confused.
The documentary is called Death on Daytime (Ch4)
The first part was shown yesterday (13/03) and the second part is on this evening.
Is it back on then?
I thought that it had been indefinitely shelved after the suicide of a participant.
And I also thought that there was a documentary about to be shown, about the abhorrent practices of the producers.
I will Google too…
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