Dialects and lazy speech - there is a difference

There are certain accents that are very grating - cockney, scouse and brummie. I want to kick the set when Eastenders is on. The best accents are Scottish and Geordie. I can't stand public school voices either.

Geordie??? Seriously?

I must be very snobbish. Im a pedant who can’t bear sloppy speech . I always correct those who don’t speak correctly. Im a geordie and our accent is well known but when slang is used it makes me mad. An accent is fine but lazy sloppy speech is ignorant

tickingbird

Geordie??? Seriously?

Agree. I live among them, and while I don't hate it, I'm not over keen either.

Oh my goodness. I am a speechless, so thankfully you can’t hear my speech.

I like a Geordie accent, e.g. Robson Green, but can’t bear Scouse or some London accents such as Jay Blades’s or the aforementioned presenter of the DNA programme.

I prefer the odd missing T sound to the ‘should of’ / could of/would of and ‘somethinkt’ of at least two privately educated friends. Sets my teeth on edge !

Blossoming

Practically my first day at Grammar school I had my speech corrected by a teacher in front of the entire class. It was one word and definitely a widely used local pronunciation. I just wanted to curl up and die. I had to remain standing at the front of the class while she gave a mini lecture on how ‘common’ people spoke. Common people like me, as Jarvis Cocker famously said.

I remember my first days at Infants' school in SW London when I suddenly realised that my northern accent was an oddity. Other children laughed at me for saying grass in a way that rhymes with mass, and so on. There are still the occasional words that are northern, in spite of there being about 68 years since I left Accrington.
We had a very snobbish French teacher at my grammar school who declared that there was 'no excuse' for regional accents. I loathed her.

If anyone saw fit to correct my speech they'd be treated to a bit of language they wouldn't like.
Well, that's what I'd like to think, anyway.

I think it's incredibly rude to "correct" someone.

Ethelwashere1

I must be very snobbish. Im a pedant who can’t bear sloppy speech . I always correct those who don’t speak correctly. Im a geordie and our accent is well known but when slang is used it makes me mad. An accent is fine but lazy sloppy speech is ignorant

You always correct people? You must be fun at parties..

I only correct the tv and radio.

anyone who corrects others' speech needs to give themselves a good talking to.

I correct people in my head.
That's where some thoughts are best left.

It seems that being able to speak correctly leaves little room in some people's heads to learn other skills.

Love different accents ...no problem with the way people speak as long as they speak to me ha ha ....I moved with my daughter from the south to the Midlands ...first day at school (she was 7) she came home and said 'why does everybody say hey up duck; (pron. ay ooop duk) I said this just means good morning ! Where I live now everybody thinks I am posh ...I have to explain it is only a Suffolk accent (I now live up near the Scottish border ) makes life interesting !

I'm very deaf and clearly pronounced speech is very important for me to follow..

Dearie dearie mi fit a lotta snobbie guff Now awa an pit at in yer pipe an smok it

A cockney type mocked my speech on a bus when I was a school girl..I explained I might sound odd due to having speech therapy to learn to say words as I have been extremely deaf since birth....thefact that I was taught clear Oxford or 1950s style bbc speaking means anyone can understand me, whereas a strong eg geordie or scouse or whatever is incomprehensible at first hearing especially if one has hearing difficulties in the first place..I have worn hearing aids since age 7 when it was realised my speech was distorted and that I had been deaf since birth, but had a twin sister who helped me know what some kind of speech was

I know how it feels.
Posh types mock my speech, and that of my whole family...
You'd think things would have moved on, really.

I've had my accent mocked by someone with a different accent. It's just rude and offensive really to mock.

Many years ago the wartime newsreader Frank Phillips stayed with me and my family for a while after my father took him for a trip on his coastal collier. He decided to do that because Mr Phillips used to read the Shipping Forecast and always closed it with Goodnight Gentlemen and good sailing. My dad liked that.
One night as he was sitting in our lounge the BBC news came on tv. Robert Dougal was the news announcer that night. I listened as Frank Phillips critisised Mr Dougal over his pronounciation. I think I can hear Frank Phillips revolving in his grave as I write this !

Franbern

I quite agree lazy speech is a nightmare on occasions.

Still amazed by how many people refer to a railway station as a train station and railway lines as train tracks, and the less said when the announcer says "we'll shortly be arriving into" .... aargh.

Soon we'll hear people asking - "can I get .... " in a cafe. Then we/ll be referring to "car lots"' instead of "car parks'.

How long before we take to "horsey back riding", or "side walks" instead of pavements.

Or should we now class that form of lazy speech as a dialect?

For our collective sanity we need to retain dialects, they characterise what is British - the use of RP should be restricted today news and documentaries TV programmes, including national news aimed at international markets.

RP if used in everyday conversation is really unpleasant on the ear. But then maybe that too should be classed as dialect.

but those terms are not lazy.
why do you call them lazy.
many of them are american usage. not lazy.
most people under about age 40 always say, can i get, in a cafe.
have you not heard them. do you berate them?

Two of the presenters on Chelsea Gardens on Sunday both said tweny tweny two. I’m always picking my Grandchildren up for not forming their words. I don’t think it’s dialect but young person speak.

RP if used in everyday conversation is really unpleasant on the ear. But then maybe that too should be classed as dialect.

I think you're confusing RP with "posh" accents railman.

RP is just accentless speech, therefore not unpleasant at all.

Upper Received Pronunciation could be considered posh and even then it can vary tremendously.